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I don’t believe my 540 does that, my non affected 170 definitely doesn’t.
It sucks. I may revisit it at another time but for now I may buy one of the passive matrix models to avoid dealing with tunnel vision.
For the price I paid ($50) I can live with it.
Yeah maybe. I can’t do much else so I guess it can’t hurt. I’ll do it tomorrow and I’ll update you guys then. I think I’ll try for 4 hours unless you think it would be beneficial to do more?Since you want to swap out the screen anyway, I would suggest trying to up the temperature slightly to see if that will provoke any improvement, 110 C?
If my vapor pressure of water theory is correct, and assuming the boiling water is following the gas law, PV=nRT, and for our situation, essentially PV=T. Also the volume of the water must remain constant due to volumetric constraint, then P=T. As the temperature increases, so does the pressure. If the pressure is higher, it's possible it could drive more water out of the screen. At a certain point it would no longer be possible to up the temperature since the components will be damaged, but until we reach that point, in cases of extreme TV, it may be worth attempting to increase the temperature incrementally.
For anyone wondering why the center cleared up and not the rest of it, It does support my vapor pressure theory involving water. Think of the water in the screen as a series of straws that are holding liquid, running from the edge to the center of the screen. As it is driven out of the monitor the straws drains out of the side of the screen. Given that, the part of the straw that would be without liquid first would be towards the center and it would spread towards the edges as the straws keep draining. The edges would clear last since all the liquid has to have left the straw for the water to no longer be present at that location. It's the inverse of the TV process itself. It starts at the edges since that's where the ingress of water occurs first.
Yeah maybe. I can’t do much else so I guess it can’t hurt. I’ll do it tomorrow and I’ll update you guys then. I think I’ll try for 4 hours unless you think it would be beneficial to do more?
Sounds good. I gave it 4 hours initially. I will make sure to take pictures as a comparison before and after.I'd probably give it the same amount of time where you saw the most improvement when you did it at 100 and repeat that time. Changing any other variable makes it hard to know if it doesn't work what the problem was, not enough time? not a high enough temperature? etc...
Well that’s doesn’t seem like a great sign.I look forward to hearing back from you regarding what I hope will be a success, or if not, at least the first step on the path to success.
That really sucks. It’s gonna be very hard to find a replacement panel. I may be forced to buy a second parts machine and harvest the panel.Not good, looks like pixel rot. I saw a much worse example on a thread but I can’t find it. Guy had baked his 170 LCD and it fixed the tunnel vision, then a BUNCH of those showed up out of the blue a little while later. Perhaps baking it too long can cause this? I’m still searching for the thread.
It’s been on for about 10 minutes and so far the tunneling is much much better. About an inch in on the right and about half that on the other sidesYeah. Baking it more was either going to fix it or make it worse, seems we’re now getting evidence that baking it more can cause this. You’ll have to see for sure once it cools down, but that’s what that looks like to me. It was a junk panel either way, I’d be interested to see how bad it tunnels now though. It’s all down to experimentation to get this right, every person testing helps, especially when there isn’t much to lose.
They are still there unfortunately. Not changing so far. There isn’t very many but it’s enough to distract you if you are trying to do anything.Are the black spots indeed pixel rot? The other guy’s started much worse, large hole shaped areas that appeared as if they were “bleeding” down the screen. He baked it for longer after that as an experiment and the interesting thing is the many smaller ones around the panel turned into one huge one in the center, but that was all. Areas previously affected were fine then. Still looking for the thread.
It sucks but I did know it had a chance of doing this when I bought it. Maybe I will replace the screen or buy a passive matrix model so I have a working PowerBook.And I’ve made a bloody fool of myself. The thread I was searching for was this one
Check the first page, you’ll see what happened to the other guy’s display. And I also remembered wrong, his turned into 2 large holes, not one. Sucks that your panel ended up this way. I wonder if the long heat exposure damaged the layers in some way.
I see the quality trade off and recapping isn’t too much of an issue. Maybe I will try for another 170 if I can get one cheap for parts. Hopefully it doesn’t have TV or if it does, hopefully it is fixable.I’d try for another 170, I’ve got both a 170 and a passive matrix 145 and the difference in quality is night and day. Any passive panel will also need to be recapped. If you find one with less tunnel vision, baking it will probably yield better results. Your first panel had a pretty bad case compared to many.