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Macintosh Portable non-backlit hopeful LCD repair adventure

Sideburn

Well-known member
Hey all,

So I have taken the risky plunge into making an attempt at repairing my non-backlit LCD panel on this Macintosh Portable I have been repairing and restoring.

The display has the classic "dead pixel" horizontal lines... At first it only had one.. Then yesterday another one has appeared through the vertical center:

lines.jpeg

My first thoughts were that there's a problem with the conductive rubber zebra strips or the contacts on the glass/pcb need cleaning so I separated the glass/strips from the PCB and cleaned the PCB contacts... I didn't risk trying to peel the rubber zebra strips off the glass without having another set and this was when I realized that these particular strips have TWO black strips of carbon that are about 4mm apart from each other...

Is there even a source to getting zebra strips like this?!?
Has anyone actually replaced the zebra strips on these LCDs and done a repair?

Heres a photo showing what I am talking about:

ZebraStrip.jpeg

Continuing on, I successfully re-attached the lcd to the PCB and didn't do any further damage but didn't do any help either.

Next I ruled out the cable by doing a conductivity test with my DMM. All good.. Not the cable.

I started to suspect it may be one of the driver chips since these lines/pixels aren't really "dead". It's more like they are inverted. Instead of black, they are white and vice versa (when I power down, these lines turn black).

I started to run my wet finger across the pins on the T7900 driver chips and found when I ran it across a particular chip, it was drawing faint horizontal lines in the same problem area on the display.

I inspected this chip and it looked like there was some slight corrosion on the pins so I cleaned and re-flowed them but no luck...

T7900.jpeg

I then lifted the capacitor (C11) off of the back of the PCB on the display and discovered that the display now went crazy filling all of the pixels black:

no-cap-still.jpeg

If I watched closely I could sill see the problem horizontal lines though so they were still flickering in and out, and when I took a video, the camera demonstrated this...

But still, with the aid of persistence of vision, it sure looks like these pixels are turning on and off to me, ruling out a connectivity problem, no?

I also noticed that when the capacitor is removed and I power down, the screen goes full blank much faster than with the cap installed.
So this seems like it is also a clue..

Here is a clip of me powering it down WITH the capacitor in place and you can see how the problem lines turn black and fade out: http://www.sideburn.com/vid/cap.mov

And here is a clip of me powering it down WITHOUT the capacitor in place and you can see how the lines disappear immediately: http://www.sideburn.com/vid/no-cap.mov

So what do you guys think? Does this prove that the issue is one of the driver chips and do you think it is the T7900 that I ran my finger across that was painting lines in the same area and had what looks to be some corrosion?

And if so, where in the heck might I be able to find a replacement T7900? so far a google search has resulted in no luck finding one.

I have cleaned, re-capped, replaced the hybrid board, and repaired the logic board and Ive replaced the hard drive, 3d printed and rebuilt a perfect replica of the original battery. This machine is almost perfect except the the damn LCD display and I cannot find a replacement anywhere so I really want to fix it and be undefeated!

Thanks for any info,

-Tavis
 
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Sideburn

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I just found this site showing that the TI-81 graphing calculator uses two T7778A column drivers and one T7900 row driver :)


Found one on ebay for $5.00... I will give it a go...
 

Sideburn

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Welp. This is looking more and more dismal. Just to see if it moved the problem. Instead the same missing lines plus new lines. So now I’m back to thinking the problem is in fact the rubber conductive zebra strips and on top of that my hot air gun has possibly damaged a driver chip… I see no way to source those unique zebra strips so I may have to throw in the towel and hope some day a replacement LCD panel shows up somewhere.
 

Juror22

Well-known member
Is there even a source to getting zebra strips like this?!?
Yes, there is. I have a bookmark for it... somewhere, but I have spent the last 1-1/2 hours trying to figure out where I squirreled it away at. :(
I'm pretty sure that it was related to my Tandy laptop research, but so far I've not been able to find the right link. I am going to have to try again tomorrow.
 

Sideburn

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I’ve been scouring too. I guess it’s called a YN type when it’s double layered like that.

I’m afraid to peel the original off the glass (without another set) and take my only display completely out of commission. At this point it is still useful for testing the board I’m working on.
 

Sideburn

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I’d like to find out if anyone has ever had success repairing one by cleaning or replacing zebra strips before I make things worse. It might just not be fixable.
 

finkmac

NORTHERN TELECOM
this is a known issue with Mac Portable displays and LCDs of that age in general, many people have solved it by replacing the zebra strips.

I myself have one to do this too, but the panel has other issues too.
 

Sideburn

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Well I acquired another portable for parts and replaced the LCD and it was perfect. And then after being on for an hour or so a single line went bad. and then a few days later ANOTHER line.. I just left it on for a couple hours and now there are FOUR lines.
What a bummer. Two LCD's gone bad on me.
I tried cleaning the zebra strips and glass and no improvements.

I wish there were a way to reproduce these panels!

I am clean out of ideas. Does anyone have a portable with a good LCD display ? I am beginning to wonder.
 

3lectr1cPPC

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Could it be the LCD cable? I've heard of the backlight model cables going bad with no visible signs of a break or anything. Maybe that's happening here with your non backlit one? What does the cable look like on one of these?
 

Sideburn

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No I have two machines two cables and two bad LCD's. no change if I swap cables. I put the new machines LCD on my restored and working machine and it was PERFECT... played with it for a while... everything good then I left it on and walked away for a while.. came back and had a missing horizontal line.. I then tried to fix it by tightening the tabs on the back of the display but no luck. I then had it on for a while and another horizontal line went out... I gave up put it all back together and left it on for a few hours today and now three missing lines.

I had cleaned the screen with window cleaner and thought maybe that was the cause but since i had basically nothing to lose at this point i sprayed it down thoroughly again to see if more lines went out but its made no difference so I don't think that was related.
 

pbertolo

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everything good then I left it on and walked away for a while.. came back and had a missing horizontal line..
A few years ago I had exactly the same experience. Got a spare screen in perfect conditions, after a few hours of use it started developing dead lines. Out of 3 screens I had, two are now dead, only one is still OK, bar for a few dead pixels...
 
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