Thinking about video editing

[marmotta]

I guess we want avid media composer for Mac Os 8/9... is very hard to find!

 

[Unknown_K]

You need an ADB dongle to use the software anyway. Each dongle unlocks features (AVID had a bunch of different options for the same hardware plus options for extra cards).

The old Nuvista based AVID systems had software keys.

 

[marmotta]

Not software dongle emulators available? On later (osx) version is available. Ok, is piracy, but this is abandonware...

 

[Unknown_K]

No idea about OSX versions, I just collect the 68K/PPC era cards (Nubus/PCI) and software.

I have working legit avid systems.

If there are ADB dongle simulators (or cracked editing software)out there I would like to know about it.

 

[marmotta]

My searches have failed, not because it does not exist ... but because it is too old software, if anyone in the past have created a virtual dongle in the macos years, now is very hard to find...

It's also hard to find the demo version 

 

[marmotta]

This is the boardset disassembled

 

[Cory5412]

Final Cut needs OSX as far as I know. But Avid can do Titling and Crossfading and other effects.

There are other options; Mac Video processing has been around since System 7.5

Since nobody said it:

1) Final Cut 1, 2 are OS 9 native applications. Final Cut 3 is a Carbon application and runs equally well on properly equipped Macintoshes with OS 9 and OS X.

2) Video applications on Macs have been around since before 7.5. The 840av in particular shipped with 7.1 and included a/v hardware, the Spigot shipped in the system 6 era, and Macs could control deck-to-deck systems before that. Adobe Premiere 3, for example, runs fine in 7.1 on an 840av.

 

[John_A]

Final cut 2 needs a g3 300 or thereabout, FC3 atleast a g4 500, if I remember correctly.

Unfortunately premiere pro never made it to mac until the cs3 bundle = intel mac. Otherwise a great program. The regular Premiere classic might be an option, think macintosh garden has up to version 5.0.

 

[Unknown_K]

Without hardware drivers all that software is useless for the cards pictured.

 

[Cory5412]

Final Cut 3 will happily run on G3s that are slower than 500MHz, I ran both 2 and 3 on a G3@450 with no trouble. Slower G3s (such as a blue-and-white G3@300) should have no trouble with either release, and really the only thing stopping me from saying that even a /233 iMac or Desktop would run it well is that those systems don't have a way to capture DV. But, you'd still be able to edit whatever footage you could get your hands on.

If Apple was checking for requirements, they weren't checking very hard, or they're lower than we all think.

That said, I don't believe any 604e systems could run Apple Final Cut.

 

[MidnightCommando]

Cory: If I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying - I could run Final Cut 3 on my Pismo, yeah?

This opens up ... possibilities.

 

[rsolberg]

I can confirm FCP 1 will install and run on a 603e. I gave it a go on my Performa 6360 with 136MB RAM in Mac OS 8.6. It actually behaves better than iMovie did in 9.1 on the same hardware.

 

[John_A]

Yep, it should work on a machine with less than a g4/500.

Final Cut Pro 3 System Requirements

Macintosh computer with a 300-MHz or faster PowerPC G3 or G4 processor and built-in FireWire.

500-MHz or faster single or 450-MHz dual processor Power Mac G4 or PowerBook G4 required for G4 realtime effects.

667-MHz PowerBook G4 required for mobile G4 realtime effects in DV format.

Mac OS 9.2.2 or Mac OS X v10.1.1.

QuickTime (included).

256MB of RAM (384MB recommended for G4 realtime effects).

40MB of available disk space required for installation.

How well it works on a g3/300 depends on use and expectations, I guess.

 

[Cory5412]

Yeah, I never had FCP 3 on my Pismo, but a Pismo should run FCP 3 on both OS 9 and OS X. As per usual, OS 9 will be faster for that task, but OS X may do it slightly more reliably.

I never had trouble doing basic DV capture, cutting, titling, and a few basic effects on my G3@450. I had anywhere between 384 and 896 megs of RAM, a 20-gig boot disk and a 120-gig capture/scratch disk, so it was not crazy but it was set up well for what I was doing.

 

[haemogoblin]

Thanks guys, I'm seriously going to give this a go on my G3 400mhz 8500.

I bought a new SCSI card to fit a larger 73gb drive to my Mac, but I'm stumped as to what cable I need.

 

[CC_333]

I think those newer SCSI drives are usually 68-pin. No?

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