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Reverse Engineering the Macintosh SE PCB & Custom Chips for 1:1 reproduction

Kai Robinson

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To show how serious i am about this project...I just bought a working 200MHz, 96 channel logic analyzer from eBay - comes with all 4 Pods, 14/16/18/20 pin DIP analyzer clips, 40 and 48 pin DIP clips and literally every probe going - i even have the floppies in the bag. I've already ordered a Gotek floppy replacement and i have an image of all the disks needed to work it. CRT is crisp as hell, bright, no burn-in. I'm also bidding on a Tektronix Oscilloscope and a hot air station for the SE/30 stuff moving forward. I am 100% COMMITTED to making a working one in the next 12 months, and I have every hope that Rev 1.4c is the final version...

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LaPorta

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Your dedication is commendable. I only wish I had the background and expertise for this sort of thing. Maybe later in life I can learn.

 

paws

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Nice tool! I've read that some of those big logic analysers can understand the processor bus cycles and even do disassembly of captures. Does yours do anything like that?

 
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paws

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Even if you just get binary read-outs it's a great help. I've got a 2ch/16 bit Agilent MSO (an old one), and in some cases it's been a fantastic help, but TBH 16 bit just doesn't cut it for 68k systems. I've got at least one reversing project that's stranded on lack of logic analyzer channels, so I'm a little jealous of what you've got.

 

chiptripper

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I've been following (lurking) this project for a while and decided to create an account to say that this is a really worthwhile effort. I'd love to see similar undertakings for other 68K systems.

 

olePigeon

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Just out of curiosity:  if you're going to be cloning the SWIM chip, would it be possible to make it so you can daisy-chain floppy drives like you can on the Apple II?  I don't know if there are other hardware limitations, or if it could be implemented via the SWIM chip.

 

Kai Robinson

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@techknight I've not even started yet - between heart issues and easing back into work again, i've just not had the chance. Ie - on Saturday, I slept for 12 hours straight - i will give it a go this coming weekend though...

 

techknight

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@techknight I've not even started yet - between heart issues and easing back into work again, i've just not had the chance. Ie - on Saturday, I slept for 12 hours straight - i will give it a go this coming weekend though...
Oh wow. I am sorry to hear that has happened. Hopefully you get well soon and not catch this corona nastiness in the process, wish you the best :)

 
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joshc

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@techknight I've not even started yet - between heart issues and easing back into work again, i've just not had the chance. Ie - on Saturday, I slept for 12 hours straight - i will give it a go this coming weekend though...
Your health comes first, rest up! The SE board will wait as will the rest of us :)

 

Phazmatis

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If making a custom PCB, it would be interesting to make a SWIM that works with standard IBM floppy drives instead. And/or even IDE hard disks. IMHO more valuable to the future of retromaccing than making a 1:1 SWIM. But! Do whatever is most fun! :)
 

p.s: Sorry to hear about health issues! Hope you feel better soon!!

 
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