I messed up my Classic II - Disk with question mark-FIXED

[Futureman]

Eeek!

I was moving around extensions, seeing if I could resolve a conflict issue (see my post about deleting software).

http://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8148

I powered down my Mac, and upon power, after the smiley face, came a disk with question mark in it?

I know it's all self inflicted.. is there any hope?

If my only computer is a PC, how would i go about putting on a fresh install of 7.0.1 ? I've located the binary file, but it's approx 5mb, so how do I go about making disk images etc for something like that?

Please help.

Help will be appreciated.

Much love

Mike

 

[porter]

In the film Ronin, Robert DeNiro makes the statement "Never get into a situation you can't get out of."

So with the marvels of hindsight, you now realise why you should have created some 7.0 installation disks to use for recovery.

How did you get the OS onto the machine in the first place?

 

[slimac55]

If you have a Linux distro and you have 1.44MB System 7.0.1 disk images, you can use the following command to image them to a floppy:

dd if=DiskImage.image of=/dev/floppy bs=84 skip=1

Make sure that /dev/floppy is your floppy drive. It seems to be relevant to the distro you use. The distro I made disks with used /dev/floppy, however another distro I've used once had /dev/fd0 as the floppy drive. Do a "ls" (without double quotes) in the /dev folder to see all the devices in order to get the correct name for the floppy drive.

 

[Futureman]

How did you get the OS onto the machine in the first place?

It was like that when I got it... lol.

 

[Futureman]

If you have a Linux distro and you have 1.44MB System 7.0.1 disk images, you can use the following command to image them to a floppy:

dd if=DiskImage.image of=/dev/floppy bs=84 skip=1

Make sure that /dev/floppy is your floppy drive. It seems to be relevant to the distro you use. The distro I made disks with used /dev/floppy, however another distro I've used once had /dev/fd0 as the floppy drive. Do a "ls" (without double quotes) in the /dev folder to see all the devices in order to get the correct name for the floppy drive.

I have mac disk on my PC.. and a windows disk imager software.. which , if given the right file type will make a disk image..

I just can't seem to find the individual 1.44MB disk images for 7.0.1.. just one big image which is 5.01MB.

Thanks for your help so far.

Regards

Mike

 

[juanjavier]

Eeek!(...) http://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8148
I powered down my Mac, and upon power, after the smiley face, came a disk with question mark in it?

I know it's all self inflicted.. is there any hope?

Yes, there is.

Here you can download executable files to run in Window$ in order to create bootable floppies for the Classic. I myself jammed my Macintosh Classic harddisk boot, and that solved the problem. Hope you will too.

You must download 608sysst.exe. This will create a system disk that will boot the Macintosh Classic with system 6.0.8.

As for the single floppy images for System 7.0.1, you can download them from here.

Feel free to ask if in doubt. Regards.

 

[Futureman]

...You must download 608sysst.exe. This will create a system disk that will boot the Macintosh Classic with system 6.0.8.
As for the single floppy images for System 7.0.1, you can download them from here.

Feel free to ask if in doubt. Regards.

Wow! Cheers for that, that was exactly what I needed to know..

I had already tried the 6.0.8 But my mac said that this was OS was too old for it... (I was surprised by that..)

I had looked for the 7.0.1 disks, but curiously, they were not there in the english international section.. but they are there in the english british section! I only looked for them in other languages after you pointed them out in the spanish section.

I'm at work now, but I'll have a go at a fresh install of 7.0.1 later on today.

Regards

Mike

 

[Futureman]

Hey all..

I've downloaded the disk images (Installation 1 & 2) and for some reason, my PC was unable to mount Disk 1 (English british) but was able to mount (And write a floppy) disk 2 ?

So I went to the spanish DL section, and I could make a floppy of installation disk 1..

However, my mac rejects the disk when it boots up.. is there something i'm missing? Is this not the correct disk?

Thanks for your help.

Much regards

Mike

 

[slimac55]

Hey all..
I've downloaded the disk images (Installation 1 & 2) and for some reason, my PC was unable to mount Disk 1 (English british) but was able to mount (And write a floppy) disk 2 ?

So I went to the spanish DL section, and I could make a floppy of installation disk 1..

However, my mac rejects the disk when it boots up.. is there something i'm missing? Is this not the correct disk?

Thanks for your help.

Much regards

Mike

If by "rejecting" you mean it spits the floppy out on boot, try doing the dd command I suggested earlier because I remember having a similar problem with my LC II that was fixed with the dd command.

 

[Futureman]

If by "rejecting" you mean it spits the floppy out on boot, try doing the dd command I suggested earlier because I remember having a similar problem with my LC II that was fixed with the dd command.

To be honest, I have zero experience with Linux, I don't have access to a Linux distro (Or even knew if I did?).

I'm a bit confused, because with "WinImage" i was able to make a boot disk for 6.0.8 that the mac did recognise (after my computer got messed up by me) but unfortunately, My Mac would not install it as it said 6.0.8 was too old for it.. lol.

The files from the mac site posted earlier are also not all the same size, I thought that an Image would be 144MB or atleast all the same size, which they are not.

I then thought that maybe they were compressed, so I used Alladin expander, and then wrote this new uncompressed file to a disk as an image, but still no luck..

I'll keep on plugging away.. your help is greatly appreciated.

Surely others out there have done a fresh install of 7.0.1 on a classic or the like with only a PC and a bit of time? I can't be that much of a pioneer?

Much regards

Mike

 

[Futureman]

I don't know how I missed the part about making a boot disk, but I did just that for 7.5.. So my computer boots up, and I put the extensions that I moved back into the extensions folder...

I thought that would fix it...

wrong ;[

I'm still trying for a fresh install.. I'll keep you posted.

 

[slimac55]

If by "rejecting" you mean it spits the floppy out on boot, try doing the dd command I suggested earlier because I remember having a similar problem with my LC II that was fixed with the dd command.

To be honest, I have zero experience with Linux, I don't have access to a Linux distro (Or even knew if I did?).

The Windows version of dd may be able to do it (the path to the floppy drive in this version will be "\\.\A:" without the double quotes).

The files from the mac site posted earlier are also not all the same size, I thought that an Image would be 144MB or atleast all the same size, which they are not.

Use these images (certified by me) and the above mentioned technique of imaging with the dd for Windows.

 

[juanjavier]

Hey all..
I've downloaded the disk images (Installation 1 & 2) and for some reason, my PC was unable to mount Disk 1 (English british) but was able to mount (And write a floppy) disk 2 ?

So I went to the spanish DL section, and I could make a floppy of installation disk 1..

However, my mac rejects the disk when it boots up.. is there something i'm missing? Is this not the correct disk?

Thanks for your help.

Much regards

Mike

---Hhmmm...looks weird. That should not happen. I will give it a try later this afternoon, and will try to keep you informed...

Eeer, by the way you don't mention which model of Mac have you got...is it perhaps a Classic?

Regards.

 

[porter]

Eeer, by the way you don't mention which model of Mac have you got...is it perhaps a Classic?

You mean apart from what the title of this thread says?

 

[Futureman]

...Use these images (certified by me) ...

OMG!

These worked brilliantly! I have a nice minty fresh Classic II with a clean OS!

I used "WinImage" to burn the images to floppies.

I realise that I don't have too much to contribute to this forum, but I will be bringing this info to the 'Emulator II' forum for a step by step guide to blowing out a Mac and getting it to work with a Emulator II.

Thanks to all who helped me.

Regards

Mike

 

[juanjavier]

...Use these images (certified by me) ...

OMG!

These worked brilliantly! I have a nice minty fresh Classic II with a clean OS!

---Glad you got it working. Please forgive me if I did not bring ideas for you just in time.

As I told, something similar happened to me, and I solved it by downloading the separate images for system 7.0 in floppies (about 1,3~1,4 mb each), which btw I burned using Diskcopy. How would I get Diskcopy to work in a non-booting Macintosh Classic? Easy: with 608sysst.exe I create a perfectly bootable system 6.08 disk, which allowed me to install and run Disk Copy. So this way I generated the seven physical floppies required to boot-and-install system 7.01 happily.

Regards,

Juan Javier.

 

[System6+Vista]

How did you get the OS to install from the startup disk you made with 608sysad.exe? I made the startup disk with it, but when I try to boot the computer with the disk, it keeps spitting it out, even if I hold down the mouse button. When the computer starts, the disk shows up as "startup disk," and I can open the installer, but it won't let me install then because the hard drive is already the startup disk. I am using an SE/30 with system 7.5 currently on the hard disk. How can I get a fresh copy of 6.0.8 on?