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Somebody has to buy this NOW
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Quadraman
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Assuming that the listing was actually posted by that person and not someone who hacked their account.
And the bidders ID's are protected, so you can't even warn them if they might be being scammed. That was the worst thing ebay ever did, IMO, was conceal bidders identities.
http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=krubitz&sourceid=Mozilla-search&Dirn=Receivedby&Many=ON
The response "didn't have time" to put in a fedex claim worries me. I probably wouldn't bid unless I could pick it up.
Also he's a "computer engineer" and an electrical engineer it seems.. smelly.
The response "didn't have time" to put in a fedex claim worries me. I probably wouldn't bid unless I could pick it up.
Also he's a "computer engineer" and an electrical engineer it seems.. smelly.
JDW
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Don't ever buy from a seller who says such foolishness! Any seller who is ethical and strives to conduct honest deals will always go somewhat out of their way to make a good sale. Excuses like "there are so many dishonest buyers nowdays..." is no excuse at all but rather a cop out for your own unethical behavior, sellers!
Even a long history of 100% positive feedback immediately becomes irrelevant when the seller starts to talk this way. This is not just "having a bad day" or "he's been sick lately." Good and bad comes from the heart. And while I suppose one could turn a blind eye to reason and buy from this fellow, and possible end up with a working machine, why willingly put a bad taste in your mouth? That's the main reason I've not bid, and I've paid as much for other auctions.
Exercise extreme caution! Never pay that much money unless you have zero doubts about the seller and his merchandise. This is not a perfect world we live in, and EBAY transactions often work to reveal the darker side of man.
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Damn I want that socketed accelerator badly...
but I also don't want to get ripped off.
And, even if that were not in the equation, I can't afford it as all
And LMAO whoever placed a bid instead of using buy it now was really stupid. This is going to sell for a LOT more than $500, especially if the seller gets pics.
but I also don't want to get ripped off.
And, even if that were not in the equation, I can't afford it as all
And LMAO whoever placed a bid instead of using buy it now was really stupid. This is going to sell for a LOT more than $500, especially if the seller gets pics.
Quadraman
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$405 dollars already. That guy who placed the first bid was trying to get it cheap. I hope none of us here is bidding on it without seeing the inside.
I sent him a message asking why he won't photograph the upgrades and why there is no video out on the back of the machine. Let's see what his response is. Questions appear in the listing where potential bidders can see them, so maybe people will stop bidding or the current bidders will back out if they think they are being scammed.
I sent him a message asking why he won't photograph the upgrades and why there is no video out on the back of the machine. Let's see what his response is. Questions appear in the listing where potential bidders can see them, so maybe people will stop bidding or the current bidders will back out if they think they are being scammed.
equill
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It doesn't seem to have crossed the boyoh's mind that, if he were selling the greyscale card alone, few would be obliged to believe in it without a displayed picture on the selling page. So why should they be any more credulous about the same card inside the SE/30 without a picture of those same insides? Unreal, and unprofessional. No time for pictures? Then don't waste our time with slipshod presentation.
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Quadraman
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Here's his response
"Don't bid then. My ebay reputation precedes me which you can see for yourself."
Reputation means nothing if someone hacked his account and is attempting to scam. This person also seems very rude. I wouldn't buy from him if he was selling $5 bills for $1.
And that new photo proves nothing. It shows a compact with a card in a slot with no indication that the card is indeed the claimed Micron Xceed or that it is even a picture of the same machine he is selling. I also still don't see a video out on that card. Isn't the grayscale adapter supposed to be on a separate daughter card? I don't see a daughter card in that photo. There is also no proof of any of the other upgrades that are supposedly in it. He goes on to say it is too hard to disassemble the machine, but isn't the hardest part getting the case off?? Once that's done, the motherboard is easy.
And my question somehow does not appear in the listing. I thought all questions concerning an item automatically appeared?? Does the seller control which questions can appear??
"Don't bid then. My ebay reputation precedes me which you can see for yourself."
Reputation means nothing if someone hacked his account and is attempting to scam. This person also seems very rude. I wouldn't buy from him if he was selling $5 bills for $1.
And that new photo proves nothing. It shows a compact with a card in a slot with no indication that the card is indeed the claimed Micron Xceed or that it is even a picture of the same machine he is selling. I also still don't see a video out on that card. Isn't the grayscale adapter supposed to be on a separate daughter card? I don't see a daughter card in that photo. There is also no proof of any of the other upgrades that are supposedly in it. He goes on to say it is too hard to disassemble the machine, but isn't the hardest part getting the case off?? Once that's done, the motherboard is easy.
And my question somehow does not appear in the listing. I thought all questions concerning an item automatically appeared?? Does the seller control which questions can appear??
JDW
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I've receive such ludacrous responses from other fishy classic Mac sellers in the past. I tried to warn others about them in a new thread on this site, but many EBAY sellers flocked to that thread, created a cry and moan session, and forced me to cease posting in it. Indeed, most EBAY sellers think they have the power to do anything, even get away with unethical or even criminal behavior. (Good classic Mac sellers like 003 are clearly excluded from what I'm talking about here. I always give praise where praise is due, along side those who deserve criticism.)
But as I wrote in my previous post in this thread, all your positive EBAY feedback is immediately tarnished when you act sufficiently stupid one time. This appears to be that sellers one time.
One thing I have done in the past to help others is write the absolute truth to them. There are times when I really wanted to bid on a given item, but the seller was rude and didn't want to answer any questions! At that point I decided I was no longer interested. I then fired off emails to other bidders who were listed, warning them of a possible bad deal. Most were members of the classic Mac community, like all of us here, and were happy to receive the insight, as they had not sufficiently questioned the seller to see if he was legitimate.
Sadly, EBAY changed things and you now cannot email other bidders with warning tips when the price goes past a certain point. While this in some way may protect bidders, it also hurts them too as no one can warn them of impending danger.
Hence, the only thing you can do in this particular auction is continue to hammer on the seller and just watch the poor soul who buys the thing. No doubt he'll pop up on this site after a while if he has an "unexpected problem."
But for future auctions, perhaps if we all knew each others EBAY names, we could warn each other of possible fraud via direct email (or PM). There should be some way we can work to help each other in this regard!
Unknown_K
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The only way people learn about fire is to be burned, same with bad ebay auctions.
I don't expect a large volume seller to answer many (or any questions) about a $1 item he has listed, but I do expect them to answer a question or take a picture for a single item that starts out at a few hundred dollars and could be worthless depending on what is included. They need to put in some effort to squeeze the most money out of the buyer anyway.
All your ebay feedback means is if you have screwed anybody over they havn't left bad feedback as of yet. As with any auction you need to research what you are bidding on, and ask the appropriate questions before you bid or you can get burned.
I don't expect a large volume seller to answer many (or any questions) about a $1 item he has listed, but I do expect them to answer a question or take a picture for a single item that starts out at a few hundred dollars and could be worthless depending on what is included. They need to put in some effort to squeeze the most money out of the buyer anyway.
All your ebay feedback means is if you have screwed anybody over they havn't left bad feedback as of yet. As with any auction you need to research what you are bidding on, and ask the appropriate questions before you bid or you can get burned.
Quadraman
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I was active on the PCGS (coin collectors) forum for a few years a while back, and the members there watch out for each other warning bidders away from counterfeit or other suspicious items and opening discussion forums when items which may be fraudulent or stolen appear so that if anyone wanders in wondering about an ebay item, they will see it and stay away. I myself found several coins with what appeared to be altered dates and sure enough, after viewing of the photos in the listing, persons more expert at spotting fakes than myself concluded that they were altered. This crap of hiding bidders name on certain items pretty well ensures that the scammers will continue to thrive on ebay instead of being shut down by vigilant members who know how to spot a scam taking place.
That is indeed the xceed video card and grayscale adapter. The grayscale adapter is appearntly, a homebrew.This showed up with the listing along with some interesting commentary...
You can tell it is the grayscale adapter because of the blue resistor, and if you look carefully you can kind of see the cable connecting to it on the bottom, going to the video card. You can also see the very thin black ground wire hooked up to the metal frame near the power supply, that is part of the 5-point cable, as well as the one in the top corner of the CRT.
I see a very strange black box right behind the area where the video out should be, with a cable connected to it. I have no idea what that is but it is not normal. I am guessing it is some part of the solid state hard drive.
I do not see an accelerator in the photo which means there is none, or it really is socketed and not visible in the picture. I am guessing the latter, really based on the guy's feedback.
In reality the auction is most likely legit and we are just making excuses as to why we won't bid on it, and be in denial about the fact that we knew it was legit all along, and really wanted it but could not afford it. If that picture is now in the auction, it is going to go for an extremley large sum of money. MUCH more than $500.
I will now repeat myself and say whoever placed the first bid is an effing tard to be quite honest. It is now going to go for much more than the buy it now price.
