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PowerBook-1400c-G3-333mhz-SONNET-CPU-MAX-RAM-MORE . . . $124

just.in.time

Well-known member
Haha nice! :)  I was watching that. Glad someone here got it! Listing said it woul sometimes have boot issues, but was likely a dead clock battery. Let us know if that was the case.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Doesn't much matter to me so long as the memory cards in that insane, unsupported 80MB RAM config works along with the Crescendo PB. Hopefully with some combination of those oddities and the cards from the 2 foot 1400 stack will fit into Beater, my beloved WarDriver along with the VIEWpowr 16bit video card. Some memory configs are physically incompatible.

I've got the top end 466MHz Crescendo PB already on board. I've got a second Sonnet G3 and a MicroMac G3 in the stack already. The impossible dream is to make a deal with one of our resident BGA rework experts who might be able to put together the first pair of 1400c/G4 'Books. One for me and one for the reballer to keep along with a working 1400c for testing the hacks in progress. One more windmill to trash! :approve:

The Focus Ethernet card I don't really need or want. I've got enough parts on hand to build a maxed out 1400c or three, maybe four?

I love it when something is mis-listed. This gem was lumped into "Apple Powerbook" category with the newish 'Books.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
:lol: nice pun, but seriously, I'm making progress! Luckily I had the Stack Reduction Project Box out for a photo session earlier and had't tucked it all away. You gotta remember, this stack started out a little over two feet tall and was only stacked "sideways" on a bookshelf at that.

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If I work at it a bit, I can get the complete 117MHz 'Book and the G3/VidCard base unit on the BookEndz Dock back in there if I move some lid plastics back around into the sidecar. That'd leave only Beater from the Display Unit and the days away conquest leaning up against the side of the 18" wide project box and that only adds up to 22  .  .  .  oh well.

Thankfully a complete enough 1400c/CD went off to a member so he's now got two working books, one very cherry and I got a working SE/30 minus CRT, PSU and flyback. Gotta arrange to swap back what I thought was a good CD door for another. Apparently it was the one I had shaved down at the rear for the 5300c/CD hack back in the day.

That and a bit of parting out took a good two inches off, thereby preventing stack overflow! [:)]

 

CC_333

Well-known member
That is a lot of PowerBook 1400's, to be exact!

If you'd ever consider getting rid of one that kinda-sorta works and whose plastics haven't crumbled to dust, let me know :)

c

 

just.in.time

Well-known member
 whose plastics haven't crumbled to dust, let me know :)
That was the primary reason I didn’t pull the trigger on this particular unit. It seems almost all but the very latest of the 90s PowerBooks are at the point where the plastics are giving up. I figured at best it has 20 to 50 open-close cycles of the lid left before the hinges punch through the shell. Due to that, I’ve almost completely stopped picking up new units (though I do still like to browse :)  )

The last of my vintage Mac laptops (a PowerBook 540c, 2400c, 3400c, Wallstreet, and iBook G3 clamshell) are all on display cases, permanently left open to avoid further plastics damage.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
BUMMER!!!!!! eBay screwed up royally here. I must have pulled trigger just as someone else was because when I hit "buy it now" when the price dropped. eBay must have been setting up one of their annoying "this listing has ended, you might like" turdfests and wound up processing my 1400 "buy it now" for a Lombard some other guy was listing. 1400 seller had me thinking he's sent it out to me all this time and I just now found out the sale went through to someone else. >:(<

Lombard guy is cool with it, just gotta send it back and I can live with just a trio of G3 cards, but if I can't get the VIEWpowr 16bit VidCard situated in there with 64MB of the modules I have on hand it'll always be nagging at my mind as "the one that got away." Oh well, at least the stack remains at only twenty inches. ::)

Any reason I might wanna keep a Lombard? Got Wallstreet, got PDQ, got Pismo/500 and Partsmo on hand. Lombard seems like a half-ass tweener model so I never wanted one. A faster PDQ with no ADB and a slower Pismo that still has SCSI which I prefer to FireWire. It has the same KBD as my Pismo, is that supposed to be the case. Both are bronze?

 

CC_333

Well-known member
Well...

  • The Lombard (L) and Pismo (P) are essentially identical, save for a few minor details. Because of this, batteries and media bay drives are 100% interchangeable between the L and the P; the keyboards, while they look the same, are not, as they each use different connectors. The display is also interchangeable, although there is nowhere to put the AirPort antenna cable if swapping a P display into an L.
  • The L can run Mac OS 8.1, 8.5 and 8.6, whereas the P can only run 9.x.x. The L also unofficially supports Mac OS X 10.4.x, same as the P (except the P supports it officially bc it has Firewire ports)
  • The L has SCSI instead of Firewire (which can be added via PC card, if desired)
  • In terms of CPU, the 400 MHz L will be more or less the same, performance-wise, as the 400 MHz P (though other subsystems, such as onboard video and RAM, are faster and improved on the P)
  • The L lacks the P's internal AirPort slot and antenna
So, if you like the Pismo form factor, but want a few of the conveniences of the Wallstreet or PDQ, the Lombard can be a good choice.

c

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
I've sworn off collecting every PowerBook type. Lombard seems neither here not there. PDQ ranks with the old and Pismo with the new. I've got 3400s that get no love and gave the Kanga I'd always wanted and finally got to mcd to round out his collection after neglecting it as well. Lombard will be going back.

Still bummed out about not getting that whack job 80MB memory cards config. :mellow:

 

CC_333

Well-known member
I see. OK.

For those starting out their collection though, a nice Lombard is a good crossover machine that includes the best of both the PDQ (OS compatibility, SCSI) and the Pismo (lighter, thinner (for 1999) form factor, compatible batteries and expansion bay modules). Plus they're a wee bit more common than the PDQ, and not quite as sought after as the Pismo, so they tend to be a bit cheaper (checking eBay, the Lombard is indeed cheaper, around $60, while the Pismo is more like $100.

What it doesn't have is ADB and a second PC card slot, and that could be a deal breaker for some.

c

 
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