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Mode32 with Radius Color Pivot mouse freezes

techknight

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I think the best course of action to take is dump the latest ROM that you can get your hands on and burn a new one. 

And work back from there. 

 

BadGoldEagle

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I think we should get this one. The only trouble is that we will need a ROM programmer and I don't own one of those and they are kinda expensive too.

Does anyone here has a ROM programmer we could use? I'm going to ask around too, maybe I could "rent" one, lol.

 

techknight

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I have everything. 

All you need to do is send me a known good ROM and I will dump it. And an EPROM to program to, and I will burn it. 

 
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BadGoldEagle

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I just realised, my University's electronics department might just have a ROM programmer laying somewhere.

I'll ask them tomorrow (unfortunately for me, holidays are already over  :-/ ).

I could dump the ROM myself, send the ROM file to techknight and you two handle the rest? But first I need to be sure I can find a programmer.

What kind of software were you planning on using?

And if I can't find a programmer, I could still ask the seller to send the card to techknight's. But I think this would be more expensive (shipping UK-US + US-France...)

emails don't cost anything.  :p

 

rsolberg

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I expect it would be more affordable to have the card shipped to yourself, then ship only the ROM to Techknight.

 

techknight

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eBay sellers can only send to paypal registered addresses. 

I am available for rom dumping and programming. What and how is all up to you. 

 

tact

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I really hope my problem is just something stupid and simple as always lol But I'm sure a rom update project couldn't hurt

I was playing doom last night with the keyboard working, and when I went to quit I swear my mouse moved for a second lol Maybe I'm losing it.  As I said I can even move the mouse for a couple seconds During startup when the Mac OS Screen shows up on the color screen, I can even move the cursor Over to the b&w screen and it will continue to function until any time I bring it back over the color screen. Maybe it is the rom. Still yet to try 7.6 or Older OS's just haven't the time to do all that yet.

 

techknight

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Sometimes it is, Sometimes it isnt. 

I always assume the worst and hope for the best ;)

I tend to err on the side of Murphy, as experience has taught me. 

 
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tact

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Experience has taught me the Kiss method: Keep It Simple Stupid 8D

how many times people say their computer won't work, its not even plugged in lol

 

BadGoldEagle

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Well, bad news. They don't have a ROM Programmer on hand...

So we actually have two options now:

1/ I buy the board since it's actually closer to where I live. I test the ROM and send it to techknight if it's not dead (I can test it using a little piece of software called 'slots') but shipping is gonna kill me. I can't really afford France-US and then US-France just to get a ROM dumped.

tact, if you want the ROM file from that board, would you cover the shipping costs from Europe to techknight's and then back to me? ($17 x2). He would then burn it to a chip and send it to you. It would cost us approximately the same amount of dough: the card alone costs me $30, plus shipping to my place, that's $55. Your ROM would cost you $34+the actual EEPROM (less than $5). What do you think?

2/ Or if it sounds too expensive, you could always source another one of these board in the US. But there aren't any available right now apart from this one, which has a v2.4 ROM.

 

Compgeke

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Another option might be to see if you can pick up a Willem or similar dirt cheap programmer, they're usually cheaper than international shipping. 

 

techknight

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Another option might be to see if you can pick up a Willem or similar dirt cheap programmer, they're usually cheaper than international shipping. 
Whats what I use, However... it is really picky about parallel ports. 

I also have a UP2008 for BGA programming. 

 

tact

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I'm trying to see what cards my friend still has around before I look at buying more of them to test things. Just waiting to hear from him

 

BadGoldEagle

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I have great news!

So someone bought the UK Nubus card and it wasn't me, BUT

I was finally able to get my IIsi Pivot out of storage and I checked its ROM, it's v2.6.

Now, I had already tried this card with an SE/30 (the PDS slots are electronically compatible). And it worked under 7.5.1.

Here's a picture:

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This was a test of the SE/30 with the IIsi CARD, NOT WITH THE SE/30 CARD.

So v2.6 is indeed the ROM we need.

MacMetex still sells that very card on eBay. Some of them must have the v2.6 ROM. I'm gonna ask him about that, and we could have this card delivered to techknight's, it's only $3 LOL.

The only problem now is that the ROM chip on that card looks like this.

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Techknight, do you have the equipment to dump an EPROM and then burn a PROM?

 
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techknight

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Which card did you try? I may have the IIsi card. the long skinny one we tried to use in the grayscale hack from years past? 

I use the willem PCB4.5 with all the attachments so as long as its supported with that hardware, I can do it. 

 
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tact

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Fantastic news! That is the skinny iisi card from that hack project.

I'm still Waiting.... to hear back from this person IF he has any more se30 specific cards left I might score before going to buy others. Hoping that iisi rom is the same just a different package do you think it would be interchangeable onto another chip?

Has anyone ever tried swapping the rom chip from the nubus card onto a pds se30 card? I am hesitant to Try this because I know my luck with computers and almost every time people Tell me things Should work a certain way, computers NEVER do what we Think they Should lol. All I know is the small difference between a nubus and pds cards could Fry just about everything So I ain't trying it Unless I know for sure someone else has done it. And that still doesn't guarantee it will work just for me.

And whats with that guy charging 500+$ for those cards lol I'll offer him 10$ for it hoping he might get the idea.

 
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BadGoldEagle

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Hoping that iisi rom is the same just a different package do you think it would be interchangeable onto another chip?

Has anyone ever tried swapping the rom chip from the nubus card onto a pds se30 card?
https://68kmla.org/forums/index.php?/topic/16552-cant-get-pivot-card-to-work/

See last post. If papa_november managed to get his Nubus Pivot working using the ROM from the IIsi Pivot, it must work the other way round and with the SE/30 since the cards are basically the same (The IIsi card works in the SE/30 and the SE/30 works in the IIsi)

IT WILL WORK. The file itself on the chip is cross-compatible. papa_november had to change the chip since the two don't actually use the same type of chip. So the chip itself is not an issue.

 

tact

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dam that's incredible. and that was v2.2? hmm

Now time for ripping! 

hmm now should I still try and get another card to swap the chips? or not because you do have the latest v2.6 Ive seen, just a matter of ripping it and getting some new chips to program I could pay for your services ;) Whoever Can do it.

I have never done anything like that before programming chips but it seems simple enough IF i had to get the hardware to do it.

so exciting

 
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