Replacing HDD in Mac SE1/40

[blackswan]

Hi,

my recently purchased Mac SE 1/40 has a broken HDD which I want to replace by a 500MB Quantum Fireball from a PowerMac 7200. When I boot with floppy (w/o HDD), system 6.0.8 starts without problems. When i attach the HDD (terminated, ID 4, Mac OS 9.2 installed ), a Sad Mac shows up (0x0000002, 0x00000F). If I boot from floppy with HDD attached, Mac OS 6.0.8 starts but a error occurs:



Does someone have an idea, whats wrong here? Thank you for your help.

Blackswan

 

[Macdrone]

Hard drive may have jumpers set that are not needed, also may need a third party driver to format.

 

[CC_333]

It sounds like the disk driver on the hard drive is too new. This has happened to me on occasion.

Here's what I do sometimes:

If you can boot up from a floppy, and then carefully plug in the data cable (you should plug the power cord in before you turn the machine on), you should then be able to format it using the patched Apple HD SC Setup 7.3.5. The reason this works, I think, is because with the drive disconnected at start up, the computer doesn't try loading the defective/incompatible driver.

Good luck!

c

 

[blackswan]

It sounds like the disk driver on the hard drive is too new. This has happened to me on occasion.
Here's what I do sometimes:

If you can boot up from a floppy, and then carefully plug in the data cable (you should plug the power cord in before you turn the machine on), you should then be able to format it using the patched Apple HD SC Setup 7.3.5. The reason this works, I think, is because with the drive disconnected at start up, the computer doesn't try loading the defective/incompatible driver.

Good luck!

c

I'll give it a try, although I'm wondering, why he tries to load the driver, when I'm booting from floppy. 8-o

Regards

 

[Charlieman]

To avoid playing around with the data cable, use the keyboard combination to suppress SCSI bus scanning during startup (Command-Option-Shift-Delete). After the Mac has booted, use SCSI Probe or similar to scan the SCSI bus (lots of disk formatters have this functionality built-in).

This trick can also be used to format hard disks that have boot level protection (eg Empower, MacPrefect).

The system error occurs because the Mac scans the SCSI bus even when booting from floppy.

 

[blackswan]

To avoid playing around with the data cable, use the keyboard combination to suppress SCSI bus scanning during startup (Command-Option-Shift-Delete). After the Mac has booted, use SCSI Probe or similar to scan the SCSI bus (lots of disk formatters have this functionality built-in).
This trick can also be used to format hard disks that have boot level protection (eg Empower, MacPrefect).

The system error occurs because the Mac scans the SCSI bus even when booting from floppy.

Unfortunately Command-Option-Shift-Delete lead to the same error as above, but the unusual idea with the cable made it work.

I'm initializing the disk...

Blackswan

 

[Byrd]

I've found Lido is good for formatting later model non-Apple SCSI drives on compact Macs.

 

[blackswan]

Done!

Thank you all for your help. I still had the problem, that Apple SC HD 2.0.3 did initialize but never finished verifying the disk, but a patched version of SCHD 7.3.5 finally did it. I'm now a proud owner of a SE 1/40 with a 500MB Quantum HDD. So this machine should be called SE 1/500. }

Cheers,

Blackswan