new to me 7600

[madmann]

Just saved a 7600 I got it for 15$

I bid on the other 2 meg vram and 4 sticks of 5v dimm.

I also have a 400 mhz g3 coming

i will run 8.6 or 9.1 for usb support what would you advise?

 

[QuadSix50]

Awesome!

 

[Quadraman]

Download OS9Helper and get 9.2.2 installed on that. 9.2.2 has a few new features and bug fixes and is noticeably speedier than 9.1. Most drivers that still offer support for 9 also require 9.2.2, such as the latest ATi drivers.

 

[madmann]

I am going to turn it into a cad station

i am adding the zip drive to the 7600

I know the radeon 7000 will work in this machine ? will the 7500 also work?

or a rage 128 their cheap

I also have a radeon 9800 pci in my b&w would it work?

the next task is os9 helper to get to 9.2.2 :b&w:

michael

 

[Quadraman]

If you can find either a Mac edition or are comfortable flashing video cards, then a 7500 would work.

A 9800 in PCI? I never heard of that before. The fastest Radeon in PCI has always been the 9200 or a flashed 9250. The 9500-9800 have always been AGP. The only cards comparable to a 9500-9800 are flashed nVidia FX5x00 or 6200 cards in PCI.

 

[sylwiusz]

Buy a cheap, fast Ultra 3 SCSI card like ATTO UL3S and modern high RPMs hard drive. I use in my PM7600/G3/400 18GB Seagate Cheetah 15k3 (15000 RPMs) and it is "wicked fast" - not only seek timing is minimal, but read transfer averages at 65 MB/s (measured using ATTO Tools) - 6x more than builtin SCSI and more than 2x as fast as Sonnet Ultra 66 IDE controller. Both things - controller and disk you can buy cheaply off ebay.

 

[paws]

Don't you need special SCSI cards to be able to boot a Mac from them?

 

[sylwiusz]

Yes, you do, it's a matter of proper Mac-aware firmware. And ATTO cards are among these few bootable on Mac, you can download latest software and firmware for them from www.attotech.com I bought my Atto UL3S, capable of transfers up to 160 MB/s for about $10, they are quite popular and easy to spot and buy for a low price.

 

[paws]

So any ATTO PCI SCSI card will work (in an Old World Mac)? You don't need a special Made-For-Mac version?

 

[sylwiusz]

No, contrary to Adaptec ATTO produced one type of card for all systems, at the same price. It is only a matter of firmware. There was no special designation "for Mac" coming with mine, I just flashed it with the latest firmware available for OS 9 and it works like a charm now

 

[paws]

That is very good to know. Thank you!

I got some dead-quiet 80 pin HDs a wee while ago, and it'd be nice to quiet down some of the olde machines with them.

 

[madmann]

you are correct i have a 9200 pci i drifted off when i wrote that sorry

[:I] ]'>

so the atto card is used for an external hd or does it have a connection for internal hd.

 

[sylwiusz]

Cheetah is mounted internally via good LVD cable with terminator ;-) Mind you however that 15 k rpms disks have quite strong vibrations, so can be quite audible although their own acoutics are not on high levels

 

[madmann]

whilst digging through my stuff i found and adaptec pci to scsi card

it has a 68pin external and a 50 pin internal connectors

it is an aha-2930cu

rom version 4.2

and i have a 68 pin scsi running now in the 7600 with that 68 to 50 pin adaptor.

it looks like i need a cable to go from the hd 68 pin to 50 pin on the card.

does this sound right?

 

[sylwiusz]

2930 at max transfer of 20 MB/s would be about 2x faster than internal fast SCSI of 7600. But it still would be 3x slower than modern wide SCSI disks are capable of What exact model of disk do you have in 7600 now?

 

[madmann]

i have a seagate cheetah st318305lc hard drive with a plug on card to adapt from 68 pin "i think" to 50 pin

thanks for the advice.

michael

 

[Bunsen]

ATTO produced one type of card for all systems, at the same price. / I just flashed it with the latest firmware available for OS 9 and it works like a charm now

That is really good to know. Thanks [] ]'>

 

[sylwiusz]

i have a seagate cheetah st318305lc hard drive with a plug on card to adapt from 68 pin "i think" to 50 pin
thanks for the advice.

Then this drive works as a narrow SCSI device and 2930 sould be more than enough. To achieve faster transfers (> 60 MB/s) you'd have to change controller to Ultra 3 SCSI type, LVD cable and LVD capable disk

 

[madmann]

what about using a sonnet tempo 133 ide card. that would run close to the 160 mbps correct. it would be much faster than the scsi 2 or am i wrong. i have several ide 133 drives and a tempo 133.

also i have been looking for the atto card and they are like $200+ what gives?