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why the slow forum

madmax_2069

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i think its having its moments. it don't do it all of the time. now its working ok here but it was taking forever awhile ago (i was trying to send a PM and got the server not responding message in safari

 

iMac600

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It varies depending on days, times... and more logically, whether the server is half-dead or not.

Anyway, this really is becoming unbearable. This is the first time i've been able to access the forums in the last 8 hours or so, and even when I do manage to get here it's a race against the clock before it goes down again. One example...

12:31 AM: Start load of http://www.68kmla.org/

12:33 AM: Redirect to http://68kmla.org/

12:35 AM: Redirect to http://68kmla.org/forums

12:36 AM: Start Load of Index Page

12:39 AM: Safari Times Out.

I did eventually get to it after a while, but I was logged out when I did get here. Logging in was also an ordeal.

If this was my server, i'd be taking to it with a crowbar by now. ;)

 

The Macster

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Ir was very slow earlier today again but seems fine at the moment. No offence, but I notice there hasn't been any response from the admins on the issue of using this one guy with his little server as our host rather than a proper datacentre... :-x I really think this is an important issue, as people will slowly drift away and new people will not bother with the site if it is unusably slow half the time, and it will slowly die.

 

stevep

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Ir was very slow earlier today again but seems fine at the moment. No offence, but I notice there hasn't been any response from the admins on the issue of using this one guy with his little server as our host rather than a proper datacentre... :-x I really think this is an important issue, as people will slowly drift away and new people will not bother with the site if it is unusably slow half the time, and it will slowly die.
There was indeed a response from Tom (admin) a few posts earlier. He indicates the server is being replaced at month's end. I do agree with you that this is important to resolve though. I stand committed to contribute financially for a better host if that's what it takes - I think this current situation will cause people to drift away, I have given up in frustration several times myself :'(

 

The Macster

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He indicates the server is being replaced at month's end. I do agree with you that this is important to resolve though.
I meant that there's been no response since someone looked up the site's nameservers to figure out what host we are on, and the issue of why we're using such a host, as opposed to the issue of just the slowness. Personally I think a better host would be a good idea, not just a better server.

 

iMac600

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Well I don't think it's attributed to the server hardware or connection, maybe the server software. I'm sure the admins would be doing something about this considering the effects it's having... but if there's a server change at the end of the month I guess it's something to look forward to.

 

The Macster

Well-known member
None of the things you mention would happen with a professional host though. It makes me wonder whether this guy is just a friend of one of the admins etc, as if someone was paying for this hosting I doubt that they'd put up with it being like this for long, but this site has been slow on-and-off for months now. Even sites hosted on normal PCs on standard residential connections are better than this!

 

~tl

68kMLA Admin Emeritus
Well, hopefully it should be sorted out now. The forums have been moved over to another server, and this one seems a lot snappier.

None of the things you mention would happen with a professional host though. It makes me wonder whether this guy is just a friend of one of the admins etc, as if someone was paying for this hosting I doubt that they'd put up with it being like this for long, but this site has been slow on-and-off for months now. Even sites hosted on normal PCs on standard residential connections are better than this!
Owen is a friend of mine from school. It just so happens that he now runs a hosting company... so yes, I do get the hosting for cheap. It also been rock solid up until the last couple of weeks. However, I do agree that it has been a bit pitiful lately. It's been an intermittent problem with the specific server we were on, which makes it hard to track down. Hopefully now that we're on another one of his servers things should be better, and I'd like to stick with him if possible. If things still don't improve (though from the looks of it they have already) then I would consider moving things.

Anyway, sorry for all the slowness and thanks for bearing with us [:)] ]'>

 

bigD

Well-known member
As someone who has a number of forums too, I appreciate that you provide these forums for us, tom.

 

stevep

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Seems much better. Here's a funny question though - why can one of my iMacs connect and the other still shows the host's "account suspended" page? Both share the same internet connection, and I have cleared Safari's cache, and restarted the iMac. Stange.

Edit - all's well now, both iMacs are loading fine.

 
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John Musbach

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He indicates the server is being replaced at month's end. I do agree with you that this is important to resolve though.
I meant that there's been no response since someone looked up the site's nameservers to figure out what host we are on, and the issue of why we're using such a host, as opposed to the issue of just the slowness. Personally I think a better host would be a good idea, not just a better server.
I agree, based on the performance of this site I'd say Mr. Rudge has no idea how to properly run a server
 

John Musbach

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However with the change of server the site does seem to be running much better, perhaps it was just the old server *knock on wood* we will see... :)

 

equill

Well-known member
The decline seemed to me to begin about a month ago. From the time that Lazarus rose again until then it had been impressively snappy, ie five seconds or less from clicking on the bookmark to ready to log-in. Subsequently it has been all the things mentioned above and more, to the point that it was not even possible to log out without an inordinate wait, and sometimes no success. This morning (in this part of the world, anyway) in the 6.5hr since midnight, the forum has varied from snappy to palsied. Some of that could be general 'Net traffic-related, but there is still a dimension of curmudgeonly refusal to load pages. What other kinds of site does the host serve?

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John Musbach

Well-known member
You can contact owen via:

Skype: orudge

MSN Messenger: owen[@]owenrudge[.]net

Phone (US): (850) 390-4810

Phone (UK): +44 20 7870 5620

(from http://zernebok.com/support.php) although when I talked to him I got nothing besides what has been said (servers running slowly, tweaking apache and mysql config, not sure what's happening, may add another server and upgrade hardware, etc). He did say though that the old yoda server has about 100 sites but didn't get much more specific then that...

 
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