LOL! Funny you should mention that. In pre-med my son's friends thought he was crazy because he liked organic chemistry. That he was there on a full ride from a fine arts grant/double major package and brought the best and brightest crazies of that crowd into their circle drove it home.Don't let the ones that look like they are totally normal fool you, they are the worst in the group. You knock just one of the pens they brought, which are perfectly squared to the corner of the desk, in ROYGBIV order, out of alignment, and they will eat your face!
PM me for a vtools account. The results #68kMLA and a few other have gathered so far are on the Public share, and MacBench is available as an IMG you can mount and run directly or burn to a CD and run from there.Where can I down load the software that made the graph you posted?
What about Firewire disks? A single (or number of) 2TB disk(s) in FW enclosure(s) should do the trick for storage.But things like UltraSCSI, higher levels of PATA and SATA running off their own PCI cards in the QS'02 is something I take for granted and expansion of a kind not available in the Mini form factor.
Numerically: yes.Isn't that a quite a lot faster than a FW400 bridged disk?
It depends. Right now, is there a delay when opening files? Do you ever spend time rifling through files trying to find a particular version? Those tasks would be faster on an SSD, because of the seek times.Illustrator is CPU limited and the files take up no space as compared to your graphics workflow and storage requirements which are more disk limited in time and space than CPU limited, no?
There are FW/USB adapters.SCSI CoolScan
Sounds like your son and I would get along well. I was an ace in organic chemistry. Completed courses at the graduate level for my master's.LOL! Funny you should mention that. In pre-med my son's friends thought he was crazy because he liked organic chemistry. That he was there on a full ride from a fine arts grant/double major package and brought the best and brightest crazies of that crowd into their circle drove it home...
There is that, but why use an adapter when there are perfectly good expansion cards available on a platform that's coasting along running versions of software released a year or three before it was itself?There are FW/USB adapters.
That said, given that you've already got a working setup, I'd say keep working with what you've got. A couple people I've discussed this with have tagged "building an OS 9 machine cheaply and easily for someone who doesn't already have one" as one of the more exciting things about OS 9 on the Mac mini, but 9 works well on so much, you'd be better served with that as a solution if you were reasonably familiar with OS 9 but needed some kind of machine for a very small space.
I like the way you think.Because I can would be a great reason to play with the Mini, but then again there's a 12" AluBook G4 sitting here with its PartsBook twin as an unsupported challenge to doing something Apple made clear I never could. That's more how I roll . . . along with that expansion slots and cards and spanned desktop thing. [}]
There is that, but why use an adapter when there are perfectly good expansion cards available on a platform that's coasting along running versions of software released a year or three before it was itself?
There is no point, that's half the point! :grin: Excellent progress has been made with that particular bit of insanity on that particular OS9 hostile, sweet little PowerBook. Hacking away at that is not something I can do myself, but I'm really curious about playing with the gorgeous little thing as the project progresses.Generally anytime you run an unsupported OS on a mac you end up with driver issues for sound, networking, video, etc. There are so many machines that are OS 9 native I don't see the point.
Absolutely, I thought that was the point of exploring our two approaches. The IP made no mention of a reason for wanting to know the latest OS9 Mac or what it might be used to do. Simple question, simple answer, but I loved your notion of exploring the various options for doing an OS swap for unsupported, but happily OS9 compatible systems. That's something I've never explored on my own. The RAW CPU power in a small form factor vs. DAW monster/insane MDD'03 upgrade approach to OS9 platforms is interesting. Haven't looked, but my assumption is that your Mini suggestion boasts a much faster system bus combined with processor speed. I imagine that's the main reason for such outstanding benchmark leads, the 20% speed bump of CPU would be relatively insignificant..Or: not everybody who asks for advice is you.
The person who asked has literally one (1) single PPC Mac and it's not a super high performance model. If they (or someone else looking for an OS 9 system) needed the utmost in CPU performance for some reason, they might've chosen to go for a Mini (or another fast unsupported system, and then later if they needed a particular peripheral, they might elect to adapt rather than to buy an entire new system.
Exactly, and it all depends upon what mraroid wants to use OS9 to do. :wink:In your case, the main reason I wouldn't bother to switch, is because you've already got your setup and your workflow and it's working.
I haven't followed up on it, but that's why I liked your PowerBook recommendations. That's something to talk about now that the Mini option vs. Maxi option has been explored. Spanned displays in a small, portable solution to OS9 workflow requirements would be good to go here.Plus, like I said, the dual displays problem is actually unchangeable on the Mac mini.
I'm here late, but I have actually two I'd like to get rid of. I'm up near SF, though, so maybe a bit far for you? (or maybe not; it'd be kinda like going to UT, except not as flat).any eMac would probably be a really nice OS 9 machine: Those displays are very good, or at least they were when they were just a couple years old, and they have three USB ports. I'd put one on my desk if I found one inexpensively and semi-local (I love road trips, let me know if you're from CA, AZ, NM, NV, UT, or CO and want to unload one!)
CC_333....They *are* very decent OS 9 machines, and it looks beautiful and crisp on the 17" CRT
Actually I wanted to address this re: the MDD as well.Haven't looked, but my assumption is that your Mini suggestion boasts a much faster system bus combined with processor speed.
The SOLO 533 deserves "honorable mention." The G4/733 has a 37.5% faster clock speed, on-chip cache, multiple FPU's, and multiple Velocity Engines. Yet it was only 15.4% faster than the SOLO G3/533 (average of the above 6 tests).
If, and only if, you have time, let me know what you find out. I can almost certainly fabricate an excuse to drive to the SF Bay Area (or anywhere, but), but it won't be extremely soon.I have actually two I'd like to get rid of
See, like, I'm still curious about this. I believe you discussed this in another "ultimate OS 9 machine" kind of thread a few months ago as well.It's noticeably slower than the MDD but still pretty good