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USB 2 in old world macs
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equill
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USB 1.1, yes, possibly. Beyond that, your logic is spot on. I don't know which Mac 601 architecture (Piltdown, Catalyst, Cold Fusion, Carl Sagan, TNT) the PowerCurve approximates, but it will have to be PCI rather than NuBus, or no-go at all. Even then it may be a struggle, or a slightly faster struggle with a G3 upgrade installed. And (at least) OS 8.6 installed.
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equill
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Support for LaCie USB external peripherals exists in LaCie's Silverlining driver from at least v6.2.1 upwards, and maybe v6.1.x (if such exists). 6.2.1 will not run under/with Mac system software less than v7.5.2. Whether you could use this to attach a USB peripheral successfully is speculative at best. It was not for nothing that I quoted OS 8.6. Fully PPC-native code and the earliest comfortable USB support by Apple comes with that version.
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register
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The OrangeMicro USB2/FW combo card works well in a 7200 with OS 9.1. It should be supported from OS 8.6 on. It is even possible to install a well running OS 9.2.2 on older PowerMacs to have the most recent driver software (use OS9helper). I have tried this with a 7200 and a PB1400 successfully. I found a cheap USB host adaptor (not Mac specific made) working on a beige G3, but _not_ on a 7200.
As Bunsen said: USB2 functionality is not given on system software pre OS X, no matter what the host adapter is capable of.
As Bunsen said: USB2 functionality is not given on system software pre OS X, no matter what the host adapter is capable of.
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Anonymous Freak
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Bolle and Bunsen have the right answer.
USB 2.0 "High Speed" will only be possible in OS X 10.2 or higher. (I think it's 10.2.6 specifically, but I might be wrong on that one, and it's even possible that there is a hack that lets it work in 10.1.) In OS X 10.0, 10.1 (from what I recall,) or OS 8.1 to 9.2.2, any USB card that works will operate at USB 1.1 "Low" or "Full" speed. Before OS 8.1, USB isn't possible at all. (I seem to recall a hack that made it work in 8.0, but I can't find any reference to it now, and I know it won't work in 7.x.)
USB 2.0 "High Speed" will only be possible in OS X 10.2 or higher. (I think it's 10.2.6 specifically, but I might be wrong on that one, and it's even possible that there is a hack that lets it work in 10.1.) In OS X 10.0, 10.1 (from what I recall,) or OS 8.1 to 9.2.2, any USB card that works will operate at USB 1.1 "Low" or "Full" speed. Before OS 8.1, USB isn't possible at all. (I seem to recall a hack that made it work in 8.0, but I can't find any reference to it now, and I know it won't work in 7.x.)
macintoshme
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I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod. 
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iTunes still runs on 10.3, but all of the new iPods officially need 10.4... I'm not sure if that's true though, because my brother uses a new shuffle on 10.3 [I hear iTunes is requiring Tiger or Leopard now.I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod.
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MultiFinder
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The current version of iTunes does, yes.I hear iTunes is requiring Tiger or Leopard now.I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod.
/me rocks out with iTunes 2 under OS 9
Quadraman
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I'm surprised you're still able to connect.The current version of iTunes does, yes.I hear iTunes is requiring Tiger or Leopard now.I remember when I got an iPod Shuffle. I had installed a USB 2 card in my AIO, and now that I think back, I probably had one of the oldest supported computers to run that iPod.
/me rocks out with iTunes 2 under OS 9
Anonymous Freak
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haha! I win! SoundJam MP 1.0 on Mac OS 7.6.1!
