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Bunsen
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Powerbook G4 12"
10.9" x 8.6" x 1.18"
Now I know it doesn't meet your spec, jt, and that extra 0.1" could be tricky (lose the optical, rearrange stuff?) but still .... hmmm.
Trash80toHP_Mini
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OSX!!!!!! [:O] ]'> PTUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ubuntuCentricity ONLY!!!!!! > } :rambo: [] ]'> [] ]'> [)] ]'>
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Bunsen
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Toshiba Portege A600
1.4GHz Core2Duo, 12.1" WXGA
Dimensions: 286mm(W) x 223mm(D) x 29.9mm(H)
= 11.3" x 8.8" x 1.2"
A little too large without some serious rearrangement, but way cheaper than a Vaio
1.4GHz Core2Duo, 12.1" WXGA
Dimensions: 286mm(W) x 223mm(D) x 29.9mm(H)
= 11.3" x 8.8" x 1.2"
A little too large without some serious rearrangement, but way cheaper than a Vaio
Trash80toHP_Mini
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Width may not be a problem! [}] ]'>
For now, all my $ is spoken for, so I think I'll start watching for an appropriate display/cable housed within a far less capable (used/eBay sourced) donor.
That way I can begin the lid reconstruction/re-design/width increase. [] ]'>
How does a WidescreenPowerBookDuo2Hack™, equipped with a 1400's KBD/hacked w/Numeric a/o Function keypad extension & polished metal insert midsection/extension cribbed from the Pismo hacks strike you? [] ]'>
Think: extra width trade-off = real KBD/metric crapload of wide@$$ formatted pixels & DVD player capability! [^]
I've already got tentative plans for a DuoDockStretchHack™! [)] ]'>
Whatcha think, gang? :?:
] ]'>For now, all my $ is spoken for, so I think I'll start watching for an appropriate display/cable housed within a far less capable (used/eBay sourced) donor.
That way I can begin the lid reconstruction/re-design/width increase. [
] ]'>How does a WidescreenPowerBookDuo2Hack™, equipped with a 1400's KBD/hacked w/Numeric a/o Function keypad extension & polished metal insert midsection/extension cribbed from the Pismo hacks strike you? [
] ]'>Think: extra width trade-off = real KBD/metric crapload of wide@$$ formatted pixels & DVD player capability! [^]
I've already got tentative plans for a DuoDockStretchHack™! [
)] ]'>Whatcha think, gang? :?:
Bunsen
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Here, let me standardize that for you:
277mm x 216mm x 38mm
On that basis, here's another candidate panel for you
Although that specific listing doesn't say so, the seller offers an AV/VGA input board on other panels for an extra $35. His store also conveniently lists all his panels by size, in one inch increments. You may find other candidates there, in the 11" and 12" categories. I looked in the 8" and couldn't find anything over 800x600.
/ETA/ Thought of another name for the project: The Nuo
Trash80toHP_Mini
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I saw my first 12" (nominal) NetBook today and I'm seriously smitten!
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product1101ha.html
According to their pre-sales tech support, it can be upgraded to 2 MB of RAM! :O
They blew the KBD design, it's almost identical to the Duo's. If they had made it almost edge to edge, like their 10.1" model, it would have been almost Full Sized!
When I save up the $ and the "perfect" 12" NetBook is released, I'm going to grab one! [] ]'>
I'll give you just ONE GUESS where HP_Mini is headed right after I set up ubuntu on the 12" Netbook! }
http://eeepc.asus.com/global/product1101ha.html
According to their pre-sales tech support, it can be upgraded to 2 MB of RAM! :O
They blew the KBD design, it's almost identical to the Duo's. If they had made it almost edge to edge, like their 10.1" model, it would have been almost Full Sized!
When I save up the $ and the "perfect" 12" NetBook is released, I'm going to grab one! [
] ]'>I'll give you just ONE GUESS where HP_Mini is headed right after I set up ubuntu on the 12" Netbook! }
Trash80toHP_Mini
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Yep! The one you like is nice, but I'm on a tight budget, for now, and I'm trying to stay within the NetBook/Duo continuum. [
] ]'>I'm waiting to research the "best" 12" NetBook, it's only the screen's full 786 high pixelcount that made me fall in love! [
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There are a couple rather bad things about this unit.I saw my first 12" (nominal) NetBook today and I'm seriously smitten!
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According to their pre-sales tech support, it can be upgraded to 2 MB of RAM! :O
They blew the KBD design, it's almost identical to the Duo's. If they had made it almost edge to edge, like their 10.1" model, it would have been almost Full Sized!
When I save up the $ and the "perfect" 12" NetBook is released, I'm going to grab one! [
I'll give you just ONE GUESS where HP_Mini is headed right after I set up ubuntu on the 12" Netbook! }
1: Any netbook equipped with the Intel GMA 500 graphics processor (which this one is) is a sketchy choice for running Linux on. Google "GMA 500 Linux" and read up on it. Basically, the GMA 500 isn't at all related to the GMA 900/950/3100/et al cores used on most Intel chipsets, but instead is a hackjob licensed from PowerVR using *completely different* drivers that are neither completely open source nor integrated with the main Xorg source trees. The ubuntu "Netbook Remix" package does currently support GMA 500, but people are having constant issues with it if they step outside the lines *at all*. You're very likely to have problems if you, for instance, intend to drive an external monitor with it, and you may also find support seriously lagging when it comes time to upgrade.
2. The Atom 520N CPU is substantially slower than the A270 used in the first-round netbooks. (HP Mini, etc.) That combined with the bad graphics engine makes this machine "pretty darn slow". (Think "stuttering on YouTube" slow. Even under Windows.)
The screen and form factor are certainly nice. I drooled over this unit, or at least one of its twins, last time I went to Costco, but given the driver headaches and disappointing performance I've gotten out of my current "sexier then a plain Netbook-Netbook" (an HP 2133) I decided I'd been there, done that, and got the tee shirt already.
If you're on a budget really your best choice is to say "screw it" and get a 13 inch "Pentium Dual-Core"/Core Duo 2 machine (Or possibly one of those dual-core AMD systems, for that matter) and just do it right. The extra inch and two pounds of weight gets you a *lot* more computer for the dollar than either a Netbook or a super-sexy high-end ultraportable. (I've seen 13 inch dual-core laptops for less then $500 on sale, and these are units with 2-4GB of RAM and 300+ GB hard disks. It's no contest compared to a Netbook if you don't mind an extra pound or two of flab... which ironically is still in the same weight class as a Duo anyway.)
Trash80toHP_Mini
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I'm not even considering this unit, it's the screen and its 768 vertical pixels that I love. I'll be waiting until the best of the 12" NetBooks (for running ubuntu) is released and the bugs are worked out before buying one.
I'm looking to keep the weight of the entire bag down to the 5 lb. +- weight of the Duo's carcass. :approve:
I can't wait to start hacking HP_Mini into a Duo's carcass! }
. . . but I will. :-/
Bunsen
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Trash80toHP_Mini
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Sweet vaporware! I'll be watching that closely!
thx, [
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I'm confused again... did you like the Asus because of the "whole package" and wanting to use it as such, or just for the screen as part of the mythic Duo hacking exercise? Every "11.6"-inch laptop I saw whilst looking was wider than a Duo 2300c. (11 inches plus, vs the 10.9 of the Duo. That specific Asus is listed as "11.3") Given how skinny the screen bezel is on the Asus the panel is *not* fitting in the Duo lid. Which I suppose means if you were serious about cutting the duo in half and stretching it with an insert you could do it, but... the question "why?" starts seriously raging in ones' ears. There are 10-11.1 inch panels with that resolution that would fit much more easily.
(Look at the Sony Vaio W series for instance. 10.1 inch 1366x768 is standard. For that matter the HP Mini 110 also offers a 10.1 inch 1366x768 panel option. According to HP's online store it costs a whopping $35 over the base price, meaning you could get Intel GMA 950 Netbook guts and a high res screen for $334 if Netbook-class CPU power is what you want.)
It seems like you've expressed a desire for more CPU power than an Atom, but if you're willing to settle you can get your hacking fodder for less then $350 shipped. If you really want to go whole-hog and make a matching Duo-Dock there is now an experimental Linux driver for Displaylink video cards, so simply by routing a USB port in place of the dock connector you should be able to duplicate everything a Duo dock does with the guts of a powered USB hub and a few widgets. (Displaylink video cards can be had for less than $60. Add a USB hard drive adapter and creatively stretch the floppy slot to accommodate a slot-loading DVD drive and you'll have a pretty complete and functioning Duo-doppelganger. Software setup will be a little tricky, I'll grant.)
Just a thought, anyway, if you really want to get this thing out of the "dreaming" stage and actually start cutting plastic.
Trash80toHP_Mini
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You're reading too much into it, my old friend! [] ]'>
I'm MUCH impressed with the next step up in LCD size for NetBooks, the possibility of room for a full KBD, room for six cell bats and a weight tradeoff of just about one pound, which I can live with!
I've decided to wait for the "closest to perfect for the $," 12" NetBook with unquestionable ubuntu compatibility, while I save up my pennies for the purchase.
. . . and then HP_Mini will be parted out, becoming the new innards for one of my Duos . . . [}] ]'>
. . . preferably my very first (used of course) Duo 230! [] ]'>
pre - p.s. (?) you made it clear the situation was third down & waaay too far for a field goal . . . so I punted! :lol:
] ]'>I'm MUCH impressed with the next step up in LCD size for NetBooks, the possibility of room for a full KBD, room for six cell bats and a weight tradeoff of just about one pound, which I can live with!
I've decided to wait for the "closest to perfect for the $," 12" NetBook with unquestionable ubuntu compatibility, while I save up my pennies for the purchase.
. . . and then HP_Mini will be parted out, becoming the new innards for one of my Duos . . . [}
] ]'>. . . preferably my very first (used of course) Duo 230! [
] ]'>pre - p.s. (?) you made it clear the situation was third down & waaay too far for a field goal . . . so I punted! :lol:
Aaaah. Okay, then. ;^)
The HP Mini 311 might be worth a look. It has the new Nvidia ION chipset and the same 11.6 panel as that Asus. Of course, there's a long thread on the Ubuntu support forum that sort of reads like people have been having hit-and-miss luck with it. Unfortunately Linux tends to be that way on the bleeding edge.
The HP Mini 311 might be worth a look. It has the new Nvidia ION chipset and the same 11.6 panel as that Asus. Of course, there's a long thread on the Ubuntu support forum that sort of reads like people have been having hit-and-miss luck with it. Unfortunately Linux tends to be that way on the bleeding edge.
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