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James1095

Well-known member
I met him at the Maker Faire several years ago where he was showing off his homebuilt CPU. Impressive project and a nice guy. That floppy emulator does look interesting too.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
He hung out here for a while, at about the time of that project update. I wish he'd come back on a longer term basis. He's the UberHacker I could never dream of being.

 

James1095

Well-known member
Shoot him an email, maybe it'll inspire him to have another go with it. I know that I frequently have to set a project aside for a while when I start to get burned out on it, then eventually something spurs me to pull it out again later.

 

uniserver

Well-known member
I like this alot (if i ever am able to get some money together) I would pay 100 bucks for something like this.

Youtube Link, this floppy emulator in use:



:drools:

 

CC_333

Well-known member
Hi,

I think it's a wonderful idea, but I actually like having floppy drives (when they're working properly, of course :) ). It adds to the charm of using vintage hardware, I think.

On the other hand, if I were going to use, say, a Plus as my main computer, I'd probably prefer something like this over a traditional floppy (SD-cards are much more reliable), so I don't have to worry about losing stuff, but perhaps as a secondary drive (plugged into the port in back), so I could have both.

What I'm really excited about was his working prototype of a Mac Plus clone. I really wish he'd finish that up (in fact, weren't the Plus clone and the floppy emulator sort of like "co-projects"?)

c

 

CC_333

Well-known member
Hi,

Well, then maybe someone competent enough should pick up where he left off!

He got it off to a good start, so that someone with enough knowledge/experience can continue his work.

What do y'all think?

c

 

bigmessowires

Well-known member
Hello! I'm still alive. Sadly, none of my Mac-related projects have seen any progress in months. If somebody wants to run with either the Floppy Emu or the Plus Too and try to finish them off, that's good by me. It's probably best to send me email through the Big Mess o Wires blog, since I haven't been logging in here very often.

Plus Too (the Mac Plus clone) is more of a research project than anything practical. It's probably only 25% done, though I never really defined what "done" was. It can boot a floppy image stored in ROM, and run System 6.0.7 and basic programs like TextEdit, but it's buggy and crashes at random times. There's no keyboard, sound, LocalTalk, or SCSI support. Something is wrong with the interrupt handling that I never figured out. It was fun to work on, but I'm not sure I'll take it further.

On the other hand, the Floppy Emu is maybe 80% of the way to being a usable product. It's only tested with 800K disk images (no 400K or 1.4MB), and writing to the emulated floppy only works on high-speed SD cards, and a few specific write operations like formatting the emulated floppy don't work at all. I also intended to write some software to let people manage a collection of different disk images on the SD card, but at the moment it's just one disk image per card, which is quite a waste with a 2GB SD card! But despite all those issues, it pretty much works as advertised. I used it just a couple weeks ago to boot a 512ke when my boot floppy went bad.

The biggest issue making Floppy Emus in any kind of volume might be cost and parts availability. I've forgotten now, but I think my prototype was like $50 in parts, before considering manufacturing cost and any kind of profit margin. It also requires a DB-19 connector, which is super difficult to find. I have the parts on hand to build two more, and that's it.

 

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
Hey bmow, nice to hear from you again!

Just out of curiousity, did you make much use of the MESS Mac emulation code/docs when you were building the PlusToo?

It also requires a DB-19 connector, which is super difficult to find.
Not if it's mounted internally, or in an original external drive case ;)

he's working at Ouya
Is that so? I was just eyeing off the Ouya kickstarter and homepage in another tab. Looks like a cool product.

 

bigmessowires

Well-known member
Hi Bunsen, yes for Plus Too I referred to the code in MESS, Mini vMac, and a couple of other emulators. Another Mac hacker also sent me some code from a similar project he did, which was very helpful.

I'll try to gather up all the design files and code for Plus Too and Floppy Emu and post them to my blog this weekend. That way someone else could take a shot at extending them if they'd like to.

Yes, I'm at OUYA as head of engineering or CTO or something like that (titles are intentionally vague). We ship first hardware at the end of this month. My job is mainly about the software development end of things, though. :)

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Cool beans that.

Welcome back, I figured you were up to something, nice project and almost title ya got yerself there, comrade, Mazel Tov!

@ B: you're on a roll tonight, that's two nice hack suggestions in one session . . . woot!

 

dougg3

Well-known member
WOW, thank you for your kind gift to the 68k Mac community, BMOW! I see you also released the design files for your Mac-Plus-on-an-FPGA. I personally am excited to look at the Verilog to try to get the hang of FPGAs/CPLDs. Thank you for your hard work creating these projects and for spending the time to package them up for everyone to play with. You rock!

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Copy that, thanks so much, BMOW.

For those who don't mind ugly, you can always roll your own soldercup connectors.

Nothing beats Radio Shack's DB-25M<->DB25F inline jumper block for Mac Video Sense Line playtime.

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I couldn't find the real thing, both ends are mounted in a SwitchBox somewhere, probably in a landfill.

If you count pins, you'll see why I always buy extra parts for every project . . . :-/

Whatever . . . clamp an easy to come by Soldertail DB-25 connector in a vise and do your vertical diagonal cut FIRST! [:)] ]'>

 
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