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Power Mac G5

~tl

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g4 mac mini? i thought the first ever mac minis had a g5 processor. :) btw, i have (or will have, at least) a g4 quicksilver but that is way slower than the emac.
None of the minis had G5s. They went straight from G4s to Intel chips.

 

Quadraman

Well-known member
g4 mac mini? i thought the first ever mac minis had a g5 processor. :) btw, i have (or will have, at least) a g4 quicksilver but that is way slower than the emac.
If you have a Quicksilver, you can upgrade the CPU. Apple made them with up to a dual 1.0ghz and aftermarket upgrades go even further than that and you have expansion slots. The eMac is pretty much a closed system with limited expandability. eMacs also have problems with video failing over time just like the original iMacs. You are better off to upgrade the Quicksilver than buy an eMac.

 

Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
Staff member
G4 PowerBooks do have a pcmcia slot, just one typeI/TypeII, I don't know about the lombard but I know the Walstreets have TypeIII available, which is awesome in very specific situations where you either need two cards, or need to use one big card.

The "Titanium" powerBook G4s are very good at running Mac OS 9, I had one at 1GHz, and it was a great OS 9 machine, but it wasn't the most reliable machine ever, hardware-wise.

 

bamdad

Well-known member
g4 mac mini? i thought the first ever mac minis had a g5 processor. :) btw, i have (or will have, at least) a g4 quicksilver but that is way slower than the emac.
If you have a Quicksilver, you can upgrade the CPU. Apple made them with up to a dual 1.0ghz and aftermarket upgrades go even further than that and you have expansion slots. The eMac is pretty much a closed system with limited expandability. eMacs also have problems with video failing over time just like the original iMacs. You are better off to upgrade the Quicksilver than buy an eMac.
do you happen to know where to get some updated cpus in europe? the g5 will be sold soon, so i really need a powerful g4. btw it is insanely great to run os 9 again natively..

 

bluekatt

Well-known member
you mean the cpu upgrades ?

they are generally sold via online stores

i dunno about hungary but i can name severla dutch stores that carries then dont see why hungary whoudl be any differnt

but keep in mind that the upgrades are expensive

...very expensive

you might be better off springing for MDD with a dual G4 then a mystic or quicksilver and upgrade the cpu

 

Quadraman

Well-known member
g4 mac mini? i thought the first ever mac minis had a g5 processor. :) btw, i have (or will have, at least) a g4 quicksilver but that is way slower than the emac.
If you have a Quicksilver, you can upgrade the CPU. Apple made them with up to a dual 1.0ghz and aftermarket upgrades go even further than that and you have expansion slots. The eMac is pretty much a closed system with limited expandability. eMacs also have problems with video failing over time just like the original iMacs. You are better off to upgrade the Quicksilver than buy an eMac.
do you happen to know where to get some updated cpus in europe? the g5 will be sold soon, so i really need a powerful g4. btw it is insanely great to run os 9 again natively..
Try ebay. I know things are harder and more expensive to get in Europe, so try to find a USA seller willing to ship. It will cost less.

Stay away from CPU's made for a MDD model. Only a few MDD models had the 133mhz system bus. Most of them were 167mhz, so even if you could mod the CPU to work, it wouldn't run at the correct speed.

 

madmax_2069

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http://www.macstuff.nl/product_info.php?cPath=21_78_446&products_id=5566ignore the dutch ( dutch ! not german ) and look at the price

446 for a dual 1.7 ghz G4 processor upgrade

...right how much was a mini again ?
that boils down to $643 USD

that is for the 7447 model G4.

there is a dual 7455 1.4ghz upgrade for $419 USD at fastmac, its known to some that a single 7455 1.4ghz G4 can keep with (and sometimes surpass) a single 7447 at 1.8ghz.

 

Quadraman

Well-known member
http://www.macstuff.nl/product_info.php?cPath=21_78_446&products_id=5566ignore the dutch ( dutch ! not german ) and look at the price

446 for a dual 1.7 ghz G4 processor upgrade

...right how much was a mini again ?
that boils down to $643 USD

that is for the 7447 model G4.

there is a dual 7455 1.4ghz upgrade for $419 USD at fastmac, its known to some that a single 7455 1.4ghz G4 can keep with (and sometimes surpass) a single 7447 at 1.8ghz.
That's because the 7447 has no level 3 cache. The 7455 has up to 2mb per CPU. In Photoshop or other apps that are cache intensive it makes a big difference.

 

Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
Staff member
either way its an enormous wad of cash for just an cpu upgrade in an old machine
I mirror that sentiment, and point out the performance benefits of using a current low-end Mac Mini over all PowerMac G5s ever. The only thing it can't do is hold 16 gigs of ram, and it doesn't have great graphics, but the graphics are fine, and many people are quick to point out that you don't "need" more than 2 or 4 gigs of ram in most computers.

 

bamdad

Well-known member
thanks for the info. :)

all that said, i still need to get a processor upgrade for my g4. beside the fact that i am a fanatic of old mac hardware, i need my 1 terabyte (!) of hd space i put into it and my native os 9 support for older games and apps.

and consider: it would have 1.5 gbs of ram, 1 tb of storage and a nice highest-end ati agp video card (just found one for approx. 75$), so i could use it for years and years..

so it is obvious that a mini is not an option for me.

i am willing to pay even 5-600 usd (way after xmas of course) for that upgrade, but a used one would be the best.

btw, happy holidays to everybody and see you next year.

 

bamdad

Well-known member
one more thing: can i put a g4 mdd dual 1.42 ghz processor into my quicksilver?

thanks again,

bamdad

 

Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
Staff member
the MDDs used a different socket for processors than the Quicksilvers did.

As far as using a G4 for years and years, I suppose it depends on what you do with it. if you only need it for the massive amounts of storage you already have in it, then that makes sense, although the Core1Solo 1.5GHz Mac Mini will far outperform (in CPU/ram tests) any PowerMac G4, ever. (Although yes, that's not really a solution for OS 9, but OS X flies on the intel Macs... so much it's not even funny.)

Plus, you can add loads of storage externally, and it doesn't even have to look awful. One of my projects for later on is to build a large firewire drive enclosure using an older AT case/PSU from a PC, and just piling in a bunch of drives. (That, or a drobo: not sure yet which though.)

 
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