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shadedream

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I've had a look and the best snapshot in the Wayback Machine for that one is from the end of 2004, and it looks like a lot of pages, particularly various forum threads/pages, are missing.
Yeah this is exactly what I've run into. I've dug around in wayback trying to find old info but so much is just gone.

FWIW I wasn't specifically asking you to try and reconstruct what exists, just wishing there was an archive of it around.

I love that you've saved a bunch of these sites already. It'd be nice to set up an easy means of mirroring them around various places (since lots of people run little sites) via a torrent or something that could be ammended. Might help ease the load on one person having to pay the hosting.
 

CC_333

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I know this isn't relevant to Macs, but back in July and August of 2018, I tried to restore a few MS-DOS and Windows 3.x oriented sites, in particular:
  • DOSGHOST
  • Dossoluutions
  • Lightspeed's DOS and Windows 3.x pages
  • a couple of others whose names I don't recall at the moment
I have some partial resurrections of a couple of them somewhere, of course with mostly broken downloads across the board, except for a few here and there that were hosted locally to the site(s) in question.

I even set up an MS-DOS based VM with an MS-DOS web server to host them on! (it worked surprisingly well, but its limitations became quite obvious when it came time to upload files whose names weren't compliant with DOS' 8.3 naming convention).

I never finished because I had to evacuate my house for a month because Northern California wildfires (didn't see any damage, but it got close enough that the entire northern half of the county I was in had to be evacuated at one point), and I never got back to it because I just lost my desire to do much of anything after that except to move out of the area ASAP.

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joshc

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A small update...

I noticed that there is a real lack of any easily browsable Kaledioscope theme mirrors/archives so I am working on one of those at the moment.

Also doing lots of scraping. I have massed 45GB recently and I have a list of 140 sites to scrape, some are still live and some are in the wayback machine. Not all of these will be re-hosted on my site, not just because of ownership issues but also hosting capacity.

I am also thinking about setting up a Teespring/Spring creator store - this would offer merchandise such as t-shirts, mugs, etc. If anyone has any ideas of what I could put up there - let me know! If there's a particular image / logo / something you want on a poster, t-shirt, mug, ... let me know! The aim here isn't really profit, though there will be a very small amount, it's more about getting some nice merch out to supporters.

@CC_333 yeah saving PC stuff is important too, but it doesn't really belong on my site. If you have saved some stuff it may be worth uploading to archive.org if you haven't already?
 

Ortho'sDeli

Active member
On the topic of Kaleidoscope themes, I've saved a bunch that may or may not have been formally uploaded anywhere. Just let me know if you'd like my collection packed up and shared.

I also have an ever-growing icons folder if you'd consider doing that as well.
 

Phipli

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Scheme design :

Some Schemes :

Probably already have :
Oh wait!!! Downloads are back!



Apple being arsehats :
 

Phipli

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I don't. I am surprised they're still up as well. I've added them to my list to grab. Thanks
There was an archive of Apples old FTP on archive.org at one point, I assume it is still there.

That had all the System updates, and like, subpackage installers and System 7.5 installers and things.
 

joshc

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There was an archive of Apples old FTP on archive.org at one point, I assume it is still there.
Not sure the FTP archive has the Tech Spec webpages, but I can check.

I am actively working on:

- Re-instating the Ads archive. This is an archive spanning the 1970s-early 2000s of Apple print ads. Unfortunately this will take some time because it's a purely manual process to create the pages so the ads can be navigated and viewed as I'm doing this without WordPress intentionally so that the ads can be browsed on pretty much any device that can render HTML 3.2 pages.
- The local mirrors now total 65GB and counting. I am trying to mirror several sites a day.
- A mirrors index page/a way of navigating the mirrors will be live soon.
- Large content is being uploaded to archive.org every week - the latest was a collection of every version of the discontinued Camino browser, saved from the Mozilla servers and now packaged up and available on archive.org!
- I am coming up with a backup/storage strategy that goes beyond what I have available now. More on this soon.

Not a top priority right now as they do seem to be saved in several places, but a more searchable / easier to navigate Kaleidoscope theme archive is something I want to do as well.
 

joshc

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A small(ish) update...

- The print Ads archive is progressing and should be online later this month. Here's a little preview sneak peak below....

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- Local mirrors now total 78GB and counting.
- This was mentioned above but in case anyone missed it, mirrors can be found at https://machut.net/mirrors/
- I have started working on a Vintage Mac Books page to highlight my favourite Vintage Mac reading material... a screenshot sneak peak is below.

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Some future project ideas...

- A HyperCard stacks archive. There have been a few projects relating to archiving HyperCard stuff but I'm not currently aware of an easy to navigate archive of stacks.
- MacPaint gallery - a bitmap/pixel art gallery, would be quite nice. Maybe also a feature of ResEdit pixel creations?
- As mentioned previously, a Kaleidoscope schemes gallery/archive
 

ClassicGuyPhilly

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Can't wait to see the print ad archive when it's ready.

Suggestion for a book, though it's not exclusively Apple/Mac:
Fire in the Valley: The Making of the Personal Computer by Michael Swaine and Paul Freiberger.
 

joshc

Well-known member
Print ad archive progress
I've passed my personal deadline for the print ad archive - sorry about that but it's not progressed any further than 3 weeks ago. I'll get there eventually. 😢

Site scraping 🧹
My attention has been on scraping active sites, creating an offline archive of those, tidying up other files, and that's now 420GB in size. I have a separate 2.5TB archive of other stuff, which I haven't even looked at yet. I think this is barely touching the surface of what's out there - I'll need to draw the line somewhere as I don't have enough time to try and grab everything, but I would like to try and get as much System 6/7 software as possible.

Storage/backup situation 💽
I created a thread in the lounge to discuss this, and lots of people contributed good ideas. I'm keeping an eye on eBay to purchase some used hardware that will allow me to have a large enough amount of storage (probably at least 10TB), in a RAID configuration, and CCC (Carbon Copy Cloner) set up with scheduled tasks to do backups. This is only for offline storage/backup at my home. Machut.net is hosted on a DigitalOcean instance with just 10GB storage at the moment, because hosting is expensive - I can increase the disk size as time goes on, but it will get to a point where I won't be able to afford it, so it will limit what I can put online vs. what I have to keep in offline archives.

More mirrors resurrected and now hosted on machut.net! 🪞

I have put some more mirrors online:


The next site was created a long time ago by @TylerEss who I think left this hobby quite some time ago, but maybe one day he'll see that his old pages have been resurrected:


I have gone through the site to fix broken links, re-host linked software and make sure its as usable as possible.

My favourite page is this one with useful utilities for System 7.1 :cool:


Some Mac Garden additions 🏡

I have also uploaded a few things to Mac Garden which were missing. These were discovered while I was tidying up Tyler's pages.

Probably not that useful these days but I was surprised this wasn't on Mac Garden.

This was buried on the Adobe Acrobat 3.0 CD, this is standalone, so at least now if for some reason, someone looks up PsPrinter, they hopefully will see it.

Mac Garden did have this, but as part of another set of installers, these are standalone and easier to install.

Again I was surprised this wasn't on the Garden already, maybe not that essential today but could be handy for someone!?
 
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shadedream

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I also have an ever-growing icons folder if you'd consider doing that as well.
Ooh Icons... I've been slowly passively collecting some lately because I miss all the fun I had with them growing up. I've considered trying to find a way to catalog them visually to a website without having to manually open them all and screenshot/crop to put on the web...
 
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