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Localtalk

lupsyn

Member
It's possible to connect and share internet connection beetwen a netbsd quadra 610 and mac se/30 throught a localtalk in *nix ?

 

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
There's a package called netatalk which provides Appletalk networking under Linux. But there's probably something totally Linuxy which can do what you want over a serial (or "null modem") cable too.

 

II2II

Well-known member
I've never did get this working, but there are some prehistoric drivers in the Linux kernel that support MacIP (?), which will allow you to route TCP/IP over AppleTalk networks. If you want to use it, expect to do some searching for online documentation, online source code, compiling the source code, and potentially patching the source code. (That, or I was going about things the wrong way.)

FWIW, this is either independent of or in conjunction with Netatalk. So don't expect installing Netatalk to solve the problem. Netatalk only provides AppleTalk file sharing and network printer support -- not TCP/IP tunneling.

 

pee-air

Well-known member
You could run SLIP or PPP on your Linux/NetBSD box and connect your Mac to the Internet that way. You'd need SLIP or PPP for your Mac as well, which is relatively easy to find. Using a null modem cable, it would be just like dialing into a dialup ISP albeit without the dialing.

 

lupsyn

Member
You could run SLIP or PPP on your Linux/NetBSD box and connect your Mac to the Internet that way. You'd need SLIP or PPP for your Mac as well, which is relatively easy to find. Using a null modem cable, it would be just like dialing into a dialup ISP albeit without the dialing.
Maybe the best solution is use a 2 modem and connect them by ppp,not direct to internet by isp.

 

pee-air

Well-known member
You could run a PPP daemon on the Quadra. You could connect a serial cable between the Quadra and the SE/30. If your SE/30 is running Mac OS, you would use MacPPP on your SE/30 to connect to the Quadra, which would, essentially, be acting as a serial to ethernet bridge.

So the short answer is that it is quite easily possible to connect your SE/30 to the Internet through your Quadra using the serial ports. It's just not possible to do it using Localtalk.

EDIT: I may give this a try sometime just for the hell of it. Just to see how easy or difficult it is to setup.

 

porter

Well-known member
So the short answer is that it is quite easily possible to connect your SE/30 to the Internet through your Quadra using the serial ports. It's just not possible to do it using Localtalk.
Unless

(a) your Mac SE/30 was actually running AU/X and using MacIP protocol which puts IP packets on top of DDP.

( B) you are running a MacIP gateway on some other AppleTalk and IP capable machine, which converts between DDP and IP.

 

lee4hmz

Member
You could run SLIP or PPP on your Linux/NetBSD box and connect your Mac to the Internet that way. You'd need SLIP or PPP for your Mac as well, which is relatively easy to find. Using a null modem cable, it would be just like dialing into a dialup ISP albeit without the dialing.
I did exactly this once when I was short a network card for my 475, using Linux on my 8600 and an Mac-to-ImageWriter printer cable. It worked, but it was, well, slow.

-lee

 

benjgvps

Well-known member
You could run SLIP or PPP on your Linux/NetBSD box and connect your Mac to the Internet that way. You'd need SLIP or PPP for your Mac as well, which is relatively easy to find. Using a null modem cable, it would be just like dialing into a dialup ISP albeit without the dialing.
I wish that my server (Freenas) had those extra packages and things so that I could do that. Is there any decent PPP server .tbz (Whatever that odd extension for FreeBSD packages are) package that I could do this with, and not have to touch the kernel config?

 
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