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iBook Dual USB Hell

Temetka

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I know I should know this but:

My SSID is hidden.

Can I connect to in OS 9 using the built in Airport card?

I know I can in OS X.

This is the 500MHz IceBook.

Model: M6497

 

Temetka

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Weird.

Googling for terms such as:

OS 9 Hidden SSID

OS 9 Airport Hidden

OS 9 Connect to hidden SSID

and such return 0 results.

I highly doubt Apple is scrubbing all OS 9 info from the InterWebs, but you'd think I would be able to find something on the topic at least.

 

H3NRY

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In the Airport control panel there's a check box for "Allow selection of closed networks", which when checked will allow selecting "Other" under network, which in turn will allow entering your SSID and password (probably will have to be in hex notation.) It worked for me in 9.2.2. In earlier OSes it may just be easier to un-hide your network temporarily to log in. Once logged in, the Mac should remember the network next time.

 

Temetka

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Thanks, worked like a charm.

Now up and running on OS 9.

If only I can shoehorn X on here.

I've tried 5 discs, 3 of them retail, 1 a copy of the retail and the 5th I have no clue where it came from.

All of them are Tiger.

I shall continue.

Normally I would place the sucker into target disc mode, then install from my sawtooth. However it would appear the optical drive in my sawtooth is dead. So guess I can either install a new optical drive in the sawtooth, or install my combo drive from my dead 600MHz IceBook into this one. Either way I must have DVD to install Tiger.

Grrr.

Oh and to top that off?

I snapped the trackpad connector clean off my motherboard and can't find my damned soldering iron to fix it. So now I am using the iBook with an external mouse.

Grrr.

 

geeko

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just clone your sawtooth's OS onto the ibook (assuming the sawtooth has tiger) using something like CCC. that should work at least as a temporary fix until you can fix everything the correct way.

also, at least you are lucky enough to be able to resolder connections like that, if that happened to me, i'd be really screwed xx(

 

kvanderlaag

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I've got a 700 MHz Dual-USB that I just finished putting Tiger on, and all it's got to work with is the 20x CD-ROM or whatever. It IS doable.

 

Temetka

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I'm going to be using CCC to get the job done as the Sawtooth powers off when put in to Target Firewire Mode.

I am curious as to how you shoehorned Tiger onto a CD laptop using a DVD, unless you had access to en external DVD drive. I do, it installed, but sits there at a blue screen. I left it sitting there for over an hour to see if anything would change, and nope. No change.

 

geeko

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you can put the ibook into target disk mode, and use the sawtooth to clone from the sawtooth's HD

 

Temetka

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Halfway through the clone process, my Sawtooth kernel panics. :O

Well tonight I am going to tear down the iBook.

I will be replacing it's CD-ROM with a DVD/CD-RW drive pulled from my dead 600MHz iBook. I will also be replacing the keyboard which is missing keys with the one from the 600MHz model. As well as replacing the upper casing because the newer keyboard won't mate with the older upper case due to the newer upper case having a notch on the lower right corner of the keyboard area which is required by the newer keyboard.

I have plugged in the newer keyboard and it works just fine.

Man I was hoping to avoid this, but alas, it is not to be.

If I can locate my soldering iron, then I will repair the trackpad connector while i'm performing the surgery.

 

Temetka

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Well, crap.

After careful disassembly and reassembly, the iBook will not power on.
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I don't know what I did wrong. :(

I've repaired dozens of these over the years for friends and customers.

Looks like I will have to tear it down again and make sure everything is in it's proper place.

I think the Tech Gods are angry with me for not using a Mac for over a year.

Sigh.

 

Temetka

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Aaaarrrggghhh! :( :( :( :(

So I completely tore down the system and re-assembled it, even managing to put in a few screws I had missed on the first go around.

The system booted up just fine before placing the bottom shield and plastic shield on.

So I figured I was good to go.

Nope.

Installed bottom metal shield, plastic shield, feet, and battery.

Push power button.

Nothing.

WTF!?! :?:

If this wasn't the only portable Mac I own that functions and is useable (when it boots) besides my 5300, I would toss in the street out of sheer frustration. I have now torn down and re-assembled the system 3 times.

All so I could re-install the DVD/CD-RW drive and install Tiger.

If I wasn't broke from my wife's cancer bills xx( , I'd just e-bay myself a nice unit and move on with my life, but alas it is not to be.

Dang. :(

 

Temetka

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Ok I am going to give this one more shot.

I completely tore down the unit all the way to removing the logic board.

This way I can check the logic board for blown fuses, a screw that may have gotten in there or whatnot.

Will report back later with results.

As it stands now there is a ton of screws and various parts from both iBooks.

I am quite disappointed to find out the the from the motherboard sits on is different than the one in the 600MHz iBooks. My 500MHz frame has a crack in the lower left corner bracket near the HD bay and I was hoping to use the pristine one from the 600MHz unit.

Once again, it is not to be.

This is the last time I will tear down this unit. If I can't get it to fire up, expect a listing the trading post for iBook parts.

 

geeko

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try assembling it w/o the metal shield, I have not found it necessary,(on my 700mhz model—i have an aluminum shim on the graphics card, and all that happens is that the ibook gets hot) and it sounds like it might boot without it.

 

Temetka

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Well....partial success.

Tore it down totally.

Rebuild it to the last few steps of placing metal shield then bottom case plastics on.

Powers on, boots up, recognized DVD/CD-RW drive.

Install OS 9.2.1 onto the newer 5400RPM 40GB HD. I figured since I was opening her up anyway I might as well do something about the stock 4200RPM drive it shipped with.

So after install is complete, I reboot off the HD. All appears to be good.

Install metal shield.

No power.

Grr.

Stepping out to have a smoke and cool down a bit before I do something rash.

I did notice that installed the wrong USB port cover as detailed :

http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1431

See the USB port cover has a little button for the PMU reset? The one I installed does not.

Guess I get to swap that out too.

Okay, smoking now. be right back.

 

Temetka

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Ok I really have no idea what the problem is or what could be causing it.

In the last few days I must have torn this machine apart at least 8 or 9 times now. I have torn it down 3 times alone today.

I have used iFixIt's guide and followed every step to the 'T' and still I cannot for the life of me get this thing to power on on a reliable basis.

Every screw is where it should be, every wire is properly routed and taped down.

The motherboard shows no signs of burnt traces, leaking capacitors or damage of any kind.

It was working beautifully before I stupidly opened it up to install a DVD/CD-RW drive just so I could install Tiger.

If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them.

Otherwise this system and all my Ti parts plus about 4 or so Airport cards are going to be listed in the Trading Post and if not sold, then gleefully and maliciously destroyed with much malice. }:)

/calm down Mike, it's not the end of the world.

/I know that, but still.

Grr.

 

Nathan

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What does the metal shield touch? Maybe if it only needs to touch certain parts you could mask the rest with electrical tape and see if that works? You might also try sticking a clean sheet of paper in there between the shield and the logic board. Paper is non-conductive and it's combustion temperature is 450 °C (842 °F). If that ever happens in a laptop, you have bigger problems.

 

Temetka

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To be honest:

I gave up.

I don't really care about this system and will be parting it and it's 600MHz brother out very soon.

I busted out the 5300 and minus the Zip Drive issue I am having with it, reminds me why I got it in the first place. The 5300 is a great little laptop which is almost totally distraction free in todays web 2.0 always on world.

For me it is a breath of fresh air compared to the smog cloud of the iBook hell.

 
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