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Fun with remote management: Controlling SE/30 from macOS Sierra

jrwil

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This will be old hat for many of you, but someone else who's getting into the hobby might find it useful. I decided to see if I could remotely access my SE/30 from my primary machine, fully expecting that if I got it to work, it would be completely unusable. It ended up working really well.

Installed Timbuktu Pro 4.0 on the SE/30. The file is a .toast image. Mounted that on the modern Mac, then used Stuffit in an OS 9 virtual machine to make a new archive that I could unstuff on the SE/30.

Downloaded Timbuktu Pro 8.8.5 for the Sierra machine. This won't run out of the box. Put the Timbuktu folder in your Applications folder, then issue the following commands in Terminal:

xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Timbuktu\ Pro/Timbuktu\ Pro.app/

xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/Timbuktu\ Pro/Timbuktu\ Pro.app/\
Contents/SharedSupport/*.app


open /Applications/Timbuktu\ Pro/Timbuktu\ Pro.app/Contents/SharedSupport/\
*Host*.app


open /Applications/Timbuktu\ Pro/Timbuktu\ Pro.app

Once you get Timbuktu 8.8.5 open, you can do a File --> New Connection --> TCP/IP tab to your classic Mac's IP address.

I was astonished to find that there was barely any lag. The only drawback is that if your modern mac has a high resolution display, the screen of your classic Mac is going to be small — Timbuktu doesn't support scaling. Lots of cool features, though: video capture, screenshots, file sharing, etc.

Amazing what these ancient Macs are still capable of!

 
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rezwits

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Man you just made my WEEK!  This is a gift from the gods!  I was having to go into my G5 then into my 68Ks!  DAMN, THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER FINALLY!

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
LOL! You're TOTALLY spoiled by local network and fat pipe internet access throughput. Try controlling a plotter server from home with Timbuktu Remote over DIALUP! :lol:

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Me either! Lovin' the fat pipe and cheap hackin' stuff outta China! ;) I'm spoiled too, just putting this version of the Timbuktu experience into the perspective of the period of the the SE/30's use/obsolescence.

I was doing the plotter tricks described above back in the Quadra era from home with a rudimentary video clip setup for checking progress of the job cutting in the shop and whether the vinyl was still tracking in the sprockets of the plotter before I set it up to plot the next file by remote.

 
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jrwil

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That's cool. Really, I was more surprised that the machine itself could handle it, nevermind the bandwidth. Back in the day, I'm sure it was murder. I remember using NetMeeting on dialup and being blown away that videoconferencing was possible — I thought the future had really arrived.

 

galgot

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Had to try... Indeed works fine on windows too :

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This is a Macbook pro running Win 7 with timbuktu connected to my Rasbberry-Pi BasiliskII.

 

galgot

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Timbuktu fun followup.

The Windows version runs in Wine on Linux too :

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Here on Debian 8, connected to a BasiliskII System 7.5.3.

Screen refreshing is a bit sluggish but it's usable.

 

jrwil

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Nice tip on using Wine! Very cool. What version are you using on your Macbook there? I remember not being able to get rid of the sidebar on the Control window. Looks better with a thin bezel. Edit: Oh, it's Windows.

And what's that launcher you have going on at the bottom?

 
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galgot

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Hi, The launcher in System 7.5.3 is "The Tilery".
Yes it's Timbuktu for Windows version 9.0.2. It's a demo, but I can't see any limitations now installed… name is "timbuktu902win_eval.zip". Googled "Timbuktu for Windows" and found that one. I installed it via PlayOnLinux, Timbuktu is not listed in their apps, but you can select the installer included in "timbuktu902win_eval.zip" . First thought the installation had crashed as it was taking for ever, so I killed it, but then found out it had installed thing correctly. And I installed Safari for Windows for fun too :) think it's version 5.

 
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Nathan

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And why wouldn't it just work? It's true you never know with Apple, but according to the support site (it's an Arris product and discontinued too...) version 8.x only supports up to 10.10 so if it supports 10.11 then it's likely that it would work in 10.12 barring specific evidence otherwise.

 
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