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Ethernet card stops SE/30 booting

macclassic

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I've now found the ethernet card is stopping my SE/30  from booting  as when I remove it it boots fine.

When switching on with the card installed  I get no chime (or bong) and the screen stays black,. Why?

Ethernet card, or cards  shown below

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Bolle

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You have got at least one broken pin here:

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macclassic

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OMG !  "Thanks"

That's going to be fun to solder, think I'll have to cut the plastic back a little around the broken pin first  :-/

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superjer2000

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While this looks to be the likely cause, if it doesn't end up fixing the issue, I'll quickly note that I have two SE/30s.  One works great with my Ethernet card.  The other unit won't boot (black screen, no chime when the card is installed).  It's the logic board as I have moved the logic board that won't boot with the Ethernet card installed to other unit's chassis/analog board and same issue.

 

Bolle

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While this looks to be the likely cause, if it doesn't end up fixing the issue, I'll quickly note that I have two SE/30s.  One works great with my Ethernet card.  The other unit won't boot (black screen, no chime when the card is installed).  It's the logic board as I have moved the logic board that won't boot with the Ethernet card installed to other unit's chassis/analog board and same issue.


You could check if all traces to the PDS connector make it to their destination.

@macclassic what happened? Messed up cutting the package open or still doesn’t work after succesfull leg transplant?

 

macclassic

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In retrospect I tried the wrong approach in trying to attach a wire to the protruding stub as I was using a soldering iron and the stub kept quenching it's heat, I got it tinned but with persistence I eventually broke the stub off   :-(

Glueing a wire on the surface of the package so one end touched the stub and then using a minute amount of solder paste and focused heat might have been a better way to go?

 
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Unknown_K

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How exactly does a leg get removed from a densely packaged chip without even bending the other legs and not leaving some marks on the solder side that it was there?

 

techknight

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Good question, but I can tell the pin was soldered to the board at one time. The problem is, I cannot find the datasheet to the IC which would tell us what that pin actually was. 

 
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ChrisPVille

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I'm assuming the 902F is the NuBus/PDS equivalent of the 940F PCI-Ethernet controller.  That makes pin-72 the EEPROM Chip Select which would be used to access the Ethernet address and other device specific parameters.  Who knows what the card would do if everything was 0 or FF.

There could be some hope still.  You might find the same chip on one of the much less expensive NuBus cards out there given the architectural similarity between NuBus and the SE/30's PDS bus.  For the truly adventurous, with a drill press, CNC machine, or dremel-and-steady-hand you could carefully grind away the epoxy near the broken pin to expose the lead frame and solder onto that.  Old QFPs are actually mostly lead frame and it will be quite forgiving as long as you don't cut too deep:

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macclassic

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Better than that I have a small milling machine with a .005mm DRO scale on the depth and before taking a scalpel to the chip I was tempted to mill away some of the case, so I might do this yet based on the image  ChisPVille posted, but even then I think I’ll still have to tease a length of the wire away from the case to give me a chance to solder a wire onto it only.

 
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