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Does this sound like a reasonable price?

A guy has a Macintosh SE M5011 up for sale. He says that he has restored it and it is working. He has cleaned it and replaced the CRT, HD and floppy. It comes with the correct keyboard and mouse. He wants $225. It almost sounds too good to be true to me. I asked him if it had been recapped and he said that older boards don't have SMDs.

Should I jump on this?
 

Phipli

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A guy has a Macintosh SE M5011 up for sale. He says that he has restored it and it is working. He has cleaned it and replaced the CRT, HD and floppy. It comes with the correct keyboard and mouse. He wants $225. It almost sounds too good to be true to me. I asked him if it had been recapped and he said that older boards don't have SMDs.

Should I jump on this?
That's quite expensive for an SE, you many be confusing it with the more desirable SE/30, which sell for more, but internally are very different machines (despite looking almost identical).

It would be more normal to pay about half that for a good working machine, but prices vary depending on how much you want something, how much work you're planning to put in and how long you're willing to wait.
 

LaPorta

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I’d say no. Doesn’t even sound like the PSU or AB were recapped. Replaced the HD with what…another 30 year-old HD about to die? I’d say no more than $100, if that IMHO.
 

bigmessowires

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I'll be contrarian and say you folks are all living in la-la land. $225 is a little bit on the high side, but not totally unreasonable given that it also includes a keyboard and mouse, and the CRT, HD, and floppy have all been serviced/replaced. A working ADB keyboard and ADB mouse by themselves would sell for around $50. If there's a giant stockpile somewhere of reconditioned and working SEs that include keyboard and mouse for $100, please point me to it.
 

croissantking

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Thanks guys. I was thinking about an SE/30 I guess. He said that nothing needed to be recapped. Hmm.
Yes, it's true the SE doesn't have any SMD parts and probably doesn't need recapping unless it's actually leaking electrolyte.

Are you able to see the machine in person before committing? At this price point I'd probably want to know if the CRT has any burn in, if the image looks good; how yellowed the case is, and generally how much wear and tear it's had.
 

LaPorta

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I'll be contrarian and say you folks are all living in la-la land. $225 is a little bit on the high side, but not totally unreasonable given that it also includes a keyboard and mouse, and the CRT, HD, and floppy have all been serviced/replaced. A working ADB keyboard and ADB mouse by themselves would sell for around $50. If there's a giant stockpile somewhere of reconditioned and working SEs that include keyboard and mouse for $100, please point me to it.

Missed the keyboard part. If it is one of those extended or extended II deals you definitely have a point.
 

4seasonphoto

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Like beauty, value is in the eye of the beholder! Yes, I can remember literally picking up SE/30s from someone's trash, but this was 20+ years ago. Today, when stuff comes up for sale, it might be located in a distant part of the country, or part of an all-or-nothing storage unit cleaning. So it's possible that $225 is as good a deal as you are going to get.

As for whether prices are going to go up, and whether you can resell for a profit someday, that's a whole 'nother question!
 

Unknown_K

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Wonder why the CRT needed replaced? Floppies get gummed up and HDs fail with age, but I never seen a broken CRT in a compact except for when the user snagged the neck by accident.
 

jmacz

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There was a Mac SE in my area (Silicon Valley) on Craigslist recently, nice condition, case looked really good, and it was working. Asking was initially $100 but it sat for weeks. Seller reduced to $90 and it sat there for a couple weeks and then eventually sold. Didn’t have a keyboard and mouse. There are a ton of SEs out there. I would probably be looking at around $100 for the SE plus around $60 for the keyboard + mouse, depending on which keyboard it is. I think the extended is worth less than a working non-extended M0116.
 

mikes-macs

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Yea a bit over-priced unless there's an accelerator or network card in it or shipping is included, or original packaging and manuals are included.
 

Phipli

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I'll be contrarian and say you folks are all living in la-la land. $225 is a little bit on the high side, but not totally unreasonable given that it also includes a keyboard and mouse, and the CRT, HD, and floppy have all been serviced/replaced.
I'm afraid I have to disagree. We're talking SE. While there are pricy units out there, you could buy a working full SE system for about half that price. I've verified from completed listings.

The current market is very variable - prices are slightly arbitary because sellers and buyers often don't know the difference between one model and another, but there is no need to pay over $200 for an SE. Given they don't require preventative recapping, all you need to find is a tidy one that works (so hasn't been battery bombed). Watching for a little while will find one. As I said before, prices vary depending on how much you want something, how much work you're planning to put in and how long you're willing to wait.

Keyboard and mouse are worth more on their own than with a machine so you don't see a machine with them selling for that much more than without.

The servicing doesn't have much value because it effectively wasn't needed, or it was repairs that another machine might not need. There isn't usually much to do with an SE. They're rugged old beasts. Buying an unserviced machine doesn't present much disadvantage.

This is a good example sold listing :

That was an absolute steal. Someone did well there.

Or this :

 
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ArmorAlley

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A guy has a Macintosh SE M5011 up for sale. He says that he has restored it and it is working. He has cleaned it and replaced the CRT, HD and floppy. It comes with the correct keyboard and mouse. He wants $225. It almost sounds too good to be true to me. I asked him if it had been recapped and he said that older boards don't have SMDs.

Should I jump on this?
What does the seller mean by restored if no re-capping has been done? A broken hard drive was replaced by one that is working and ditto with the floppy? Hardly a reason to double the price.

Depending on the amount of yellowing and the availability of keyboard, mouse, manuals and so, I would price this machine anywhere from $50 to $150. $50 for an SE so yellow'd, it practically has skin cancer and $150 for an SE in pristine condition with keyboard & mouse or manuals thrown in.

I am personally of the opinion that an SE is more worthwhile than an SE/30, if the object is to play games and use software written for the compact Mac. A Mac IIcx is a much more agreeable SE/30. Not as cute though.
 

4seasonphoto

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you could buy a working full SE system for about half that price. I've verified from completed listings.
eBay price varies a lot depending on whether the goods need to be shipped, and how far. Whereas the Craiglist price is likely to be negotiable, especially if OP shows up with cash in hand.

Regarding SE/30 and other "ultimate" machines: Never forget that they're still just as obsolete :p
 

joshc

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The highest amount I've been able to personally sell an SE for was £145, so that's around $185 with current conversion rates. I think that was last year. That was a non yellowed, very good condition machine.

A lot of it depends on the condition. But it does sound like 'restored' might be stretching it a bit. You are still ending up with an SE with a spinning drive.
 
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