Appleshare crashing on 6.0.8

[H3NRY]

Grrr! >

So last night I pulled the old Mac "128" with its SuperMac 2MB RAM + SCSI upgrade outa the closet. No boot. Hard disk keeps recalibrating over & over. Tried to reformat etc. - no joy. Pulled a 160 MB laptop drive with an Apple label out of a dead Duo, installed it, eventually found a version of HD SC Installer that would format it and installed OS 6.0.8. So far, so good. Now I'm trying to connect via AppleTalk. Can't connect to OS 10.4 (incompatible version of AppleShare) and not having any luck connecting to OS 9.2.2. I can connect to the server, password is OK and so on, but when I select a drive and try to mount it, I get a divide by zero error. I know I've had OS 6 Macs sharing files nicely before. Is there a preferred version of Appleshare or AppleTalk?

I'll sort it out eventually, but if somebody knows the magic combination of versions, or can point me to a thread...

 

[H3NRY]

Sorry, cancel the above post. :I

Found my backup CD-R and the old Mac managed to mount it without crashing. It has the magic versions of everything on it.

 

[ken27238]

are you telling me you got 6.0.8 running on a 128k mac !!!! 8-o because according to the http://www.apple-history.com site you can only run up to System 3.2/Finder 5.3. if i am wrong please correct me.

 

[Dog Cow]

HFS+ causes crashes in older versions of AppleShare.

 

[H3NRY]

Right, and right you are. If you look again, the the old Mac has been upgraded to 2MB RAM, SCSI, and 128K ROMs, so in effect it's a Mac Plus now. Just not as pretty or reliable. The CD has Appleshare Workstation, the version of CD driver that works with everything, and so on, so this Mac can play nicely with the big boys again. Fortunately, the CD was small enough that System 6 could handle it. An hour of glowing LEDs in the TurboNet connectors and 40 MB of stuff is back on the old girl. The original problem was that the server got a replacement boot drive a year ago, and it's too big for System 6 to mount. I think.

BTW, did you know that OS9.2.2 can handle large, as in 1TB+, drives? With Mac OS ROM version 9.5.1, my blue & white G3 has no trouble with its pair of terabyte Seagates under OS 9. Apple obviously added LBA48-bit addressing very late in the game.

 

[protocol7]

BTW, did you know that OS9.2.2 can handle large, as in 1TB+, drives? With Mac OS ROM version 9.5.1, my blue & white G3 has no trouble with its pair of terabyte Seagates under OS 9. Apple obviously added LBA48-bit addressing very late in the game.

I've been collecting these high version number Mac OS ROM files for this very reason. I think the highest they went was 10.2.1, which I haven't managed to find. I do have the 9.8.1 one though which apparently will get some of the early classic-only iMacs booting native OS9.

 

[H3NRY]

Interesting! Somebody was still working on OS 9 ROM after OS 9 was pronounced dead. You've found some later ones than I did.

 

[protocol7]

Yup. My iBook came with 10.2.1 install disks only. OS9 was in a "classic" image on the first restore CD. That had 9.7.1 in it. Also, Netboot for OS9 has (iirc) 9.6.1.

9.8.1 is on a MacTest Pro disc that I've been trying to find for some time. So far I've only managed to find the ROM.

 

[ken27238]

Yup. My iBook came with 10.2.1 install disks only. OS9 was in a "classic" image on the first restore CD. That had 9.7.1 in it. Also, Netboot for OS9 has (iirc) 9.6.1.
9.8.1 is on a MacTest Pro disc that I've been trying to find for some time. So far I've only managed to find the ROM.

upload the ROM images to www.macintoshgarden.org some people might like to get a hold of them

 

[equill]

Some of the posts above indicate sources of Mac OS ROM 10.2.1 that I was unaware of, and wouldn't have been accessible when I was trying to get a useful installation of OS 9.2.2 going on an MDD. My subsequent experience is that:

Large drive support under OS 9 can be checked by looking in System Folder for the version numbers of Mac OS ROM (10.2.1) and the three Classic support modules Classic (9.5.0), Classic Support (2.2.1) and Classic Support UI (2.2.1). Without that ROM-in-RAM version the System knows nowt about 48-bit LBA and drives of more than 128GB (real), regardless of a PCI card. I've never used 10.1.x on my MDDs—only 10.4.x and 10.5.x—so I have no idea how it behaves with large ATA drives mediated by the on-board controllers. However, a drive of 190GB remains the limit for OS 9 to address (by other than FireWire), as also is 1.5GB of RAM a limit.

Mac OS ROM 10.2.1 (and the other bits of the Classic Compatibility Environment) also came on the G4 MDD (machine-specific, grey) Install CD, but it was otherwise hard to find. Nay, it was impossible to find it. Things may be different now, but I could never find 10.2.1 in the Apple basket when I was looking, so you may need to chum up with someone to get it. It may also be that the change from BootROM 4.4.8f in the earlier MDDs to 4.6.x in the FW800 and later MDDs torpedoed booting into OS 9.2.2.

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[protocol7]

I think 9.5.1 added the LBA48 support. It seems to be the minimum one if you want to boot a MDD anyway.

Not sure what other fixes the later ROMs had (but I guess the newer the better). From what I can gather 10.2.1 can also be found in the Classic image on G5 restore discs.