9" Compact Completists?

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

Morning all - so a few ideas to share for feedback

Let's rename this guide to "The Definitive Guide to 9" Compacts and 10" Color Classic Models and Variations" so we avoid the is a CC a Compact conflict area.

Once everything is ready, I'm thinking a new thread titled as above and hopefully pinned to the top of this forum (@Cory5412 or @defor ?)

The first post would explain purpose of the guide is to provide more complete and authoritative info on the different variations of these machines than other sources, and also to thank the folks who contributed.

Here's the (working version) of the excel matrix that would be in the first post


Second post in the thread would be the profiles and pictures for the 128k, 512k, and Plus. Here's an updated profile example using the Plus with some more info and links to other reference sites:
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Macintosh Plus (Plus ED)
Everymac | Low End Mac
Model Number(s) - M0001A
Production - Jan 86-Oct 90
Display - 9" Monochrome
Processor - 8 MHz 68000
FPU - N/A
RAM Options - 1MB
Max System RAM - 4MB
Internal Hard Drive Options - N/A
Floppy Drive - 800k
Ports/Expansion
Keyboard - RJ11 (front)
Mouse - DB-9
Floppy Drive - DB-19
SCSI - DB-25
Modem - DIN-8
Printer - DIN-8
Audio Out - 3.5mm (1/8")
Expansion - N/A

Front (Beige and Platinum case versions)

Front "ED" versions

Rear (Platinum and Beige case versions)


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Third post = profiles and pictures for SE and SE/30
Fourth post = profiles and pictures for Classic and Classic II

Fifth post would be for the CC's and would include their excel matrix and profiles and pictures for Color Classic and Color Classic II

Thoughts, feedback and contributions appreciated!

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

Need some help from Plus SME's please.

Are the following statements true?

Beige versions
Front - some only had Apple logo on front, others had Apple logo and model badge
Back Plate - All labeled as "Macintosh Plus 1MB"

Platinum versions
Front - some only had Apple logo on front, others had Apple logo and model badge
Back Plate - Some labeled as "Macintosh Plus 1MB", others just "Macintosh Plus"

If you're motivated and can get manufacture dates might be interesting to figure out cutovers.

Would there have been different styles at the same time from the different factories?

Thx!

 

[Phipli]

Beige versions
Front - some only had Apple logo on front, others had Apple logo and model badge
Back Plate - All labeled as "Macintosh Plus 1MB"

I understood that all manufactured Pluses had "Plus" on the front. The ones without "Plus" are upgraded 128s with a new bucket and a Plus board.

Front - some only had Apple logo on front, others had Apple logo and model badge

Don't think this is true either.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

I understood that all manufactured Pluses had "Plus" on the front. The ones without "Plus" are upgraded 128s with a new bucket and a Plus board.

Ah that makes sense.

Don't think this is true either

Ok...it's difficult to tell case color from pictures sometimes with aging and bad lighting

 

[joshc]

I understood that all manufactured Pluses had "Plus" on the front. The ones without "Plus" are upgraded 128s with a new bucket and a Plus board.

This. Also upgraded 512ks.

Yeah as far as I know, all Pluses sold as Pluses said Macintosh Plus on the front.

 

[Phipli]

Also upgraded 512ks.

Except these would say "512k" on the front wouldn't they?

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

Except these would say "512k" on the front wouldn't they?

The 512k was on the back, front on both the Original/128k and 512k/e were just the logo (except the 512Ke ED)

As always correct me if I'm wrong

 

[Phipli]

The 512k was on the back, front on both the Original/128k and 512k/e were just the logo (except the 512Ke ED)

As always correct me if I'm wrong

Ah yes, that makes sense. There aren't many of them around here I'd just heard that the early ones weren't badges 128k, and they badged both when the 512k came out. I assumed on the front because... Almost every other Mac until the B&W G3.

 

[LaPorta]

At least as far as I know, no Mac 128k-512k/ke ever had any writing on the front. All Macintosh Plus models starting life as such stated “Macintosh Plus” on the front. All official Apple upgrades from 128k/512k to Plus left original front bezel intact, and included a Plus logic board and rear case stating “Macintosh Plus 1 MB”

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

All good mate! This is the exact purpose of this little data gathering and eventual publishing, to dispel all myths and inaccurate info out there and have a definitive guide.

Feel like we are on our way to insane level of Ford Mustang or Chevrolet Corvette crazy owners who can tell by the angle of bolt head on whichever part that car came down Line Whatever when Henry So-and-so was on-shift

 

[LaPorta]

Feel like we are on our way to insane level of Ford Mustang or Chevrolet Corvette crazy owners who can tell by the angle of bolt head on whichever part that car came down Line Whatever when Henry So-and-so was on-shift

I haven’t gotten that far, but I’ve been getting more adept as I restore my 1968.

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

I haven’t gotten that far, but I’ve been getting more adept as I restore my 1968.

Oh? Picture? I'm guessing Stang.

 

[LaPorta]

Oh? Picture? I'm guessing Stang.

Should have specified…Mustang indeed.

 

[Phipli]

owners who can tell by the angle of bolt head on whichever part that car came down Line Whatever when Henry So-and-so was on-shift

Henry needs to be fired if he's cross threading bolts

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

Henry needs to be fired if he's cross threading bolts

At least we can put electronics in cars without them blowing up

 

[Andy]

There are also 3 revisions of the Macintosh Plus ROM. Though I think most of the actual produced macs had the latest one. Still, might be interesting if someone finds out they have an early one. Details are in Tech Note #139 https://www.tech-insider.org/mac/research/acrobat/8803-f.pdf Also the writing in these notes are really goofy at times. For sure written by programmers.

#139: Macintosh Plus ROM Versions

Written by: Cameron Birse July 1, 1987
Updated: March 1, 1988
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Readers Digest condensed version of Macintosh Plus ROM history, or the truth according to Bo3bdar the everpresent:

1st version (Lonely Hearts, checksum 4D 1E EE E1):
Bug in the SCSI driver; won’t boot if external drive is turned off. We only
produced about one and a half months worth of these.

2nd version (Lonely Heifers, checksum 4D 1E EA E1):
Fixed boot bug. This version is the vast majority of beige Macintosh Pluses.

3rd version (Loud Harmonicas, checksum 4D 1F 81 72):
Fixed bug for drives that return Unit Attention on power up or reset.
Basically took the SCSI bus Reset command out of the boot sequence loop, so
it will only reset once during boot sequence. This version shipped with the
platinum Macintosh Pluses.

And Bo3bdar saith: “Thou shalt not rev them damn ROMs no more!”

Later that same day...

Bo3bdar Saith Also:

Lonely Heifer was about a 2 byte change,
Loud Harmonica was about 30 byte change.
No other bug fixes in SCSI or elsewhere.
Modified object code directly.
Not possible to get a specific ROM since they are all the same part number.
Shouldn’t rely on a specific ROM, there will be no upgrade.
Bo3b Bo3b a boola, a wiff Ba2m Bo1om.

 

[sstaylor]

Just to additionally complicate things, here is my dual-floppy SE FDHD. I don't recall where I got it but I understand some were sold in the education market. There is no hard drive installed. The ethernet card is a recent addition.

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

@Andy Good info and those notes are a riot

@sstaylor wow! I think this version gets nominated for Most Whack Compact!

 

[ClassicGuyPhilly]

@sstaylor your manufacture week is 7/31 to 8/6/89. The FDHD was introduced 8/1/89 (everymac) You may have one of the earliest surviving SE FDHDs!

 

[cheesestraws]

A couple of incredibly pedantic things:

• Classics came in two case variants - one with a speaker grille and one without.
• The 128, 512, Plus, Classic and Classic II came in both 120V and 240V versions, and this was marked on the case,