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#1 Pitou

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Posted 24 February 2017 - 07:12 PM

Hello,

 

Anyone knows where I can find the Apple 3 Low Level Format floppy disk image?

 

Thank you.

 

Pitou!



#2 CelGen

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Posted 10 March 2017 - 04:34 AM

I believe most of the images have been pulled down at this point by resellers like VintageMicros because they undercut their business of selling formatting kits for a few hundred dollars.



#3 Pitou

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Posted 16 March 2017 - 02:32 AM

I found it here:

 

https://mirrors.appl.../apple3/system/

 

https://mirrors.appl...el-Formatter.po

 

I've LLF 2x ST-506 in my profiles and it worked fine. :)

 

Pitou!



#4 david__schmidt

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 03:03 PM

I believe most of the images have been pulled down at this point by resellers like VintageMicros because they undercut their business of selling formatting kits for a few hundred dollars.

That doesn't make any sense - the software is useless without the LLF ROM chip for the Z8 processor you have to drop into the controller.



#5 snuci

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Posted 18 March 2017 - 09:23 PM

That doesn't make any sense - the software is useless without the LLF ROM chip for the Z8 processor you have to drop into the controller.

 

I am guessing the LLF ROM chip might be the same as the one for the Lisa?  They are here:  http://bitsavers.inf...ofile/firmware/



#6 MarNo84

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Posted 12 May 2017 - 01:56 PM

YaY [8D] that's exactly what I need here - actually found some Piggyback Zilogs Z8603 & Z8613 while on holidays in China xD

Eproms @home and now the neccessary Files - ROMs & Disk Imagew/ Software [}:)]

 

Cheers,

Marcus


Edited by MarNo84, 12 May 2017 - 02:00 PM.

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#7 CelGen

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 12:59 AM



I am guessing the LLF ROM chip might be the same as the one for the Lisa?  They are here:  http://bitsavers.inf...ofile/firmware/

I believe they are the same between the Apple III and the Lisa. The variations in blocksize and precisely how the filesystem is created is left to the high-level formatting utilities.

Don't call me on it though. I have never owned an Apple III with a ProFile, much less an Apple III.



#8 MarNo84

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Posted 13 May 2017 - 02:49 PM

I believe they are the same between the Apple III and the Lisa. The variations in blocksize and precisely how the filesystem is created is left to the high-level formatting utilities.

Don't call me on it though. I have never owned an Apple III with a ProFile, much less an Apple III.

Yes I think they are the same - Apple /// & LISA use the same "Basis" of LLF system - it just formats the drive to a very very raw format so the Computersystems themself can access/recognize a "clean" drive and initialize the final format of the drive. Thats the point at all - LLF your ProFile on any Apple /// the common way with the tools or on the LISA with BLU and similar. The ROM is the same to use for formatting.

 

I will do a little Project in a while:  LL formatting, clean initializing and using Apple ProFile Drives on Apple //, Apple /// and of course on the beauty LISA :)

Therefore I will try and show how to LLF on the Apple /// with these common tools and on the LISA using BLU and maybe/probably the interesting Toll called NeoWidEx. As for what I know, there isn't any YT video or "live documentation" about these things anywhere shown? So maybe this could be interesting for some people too - except just for myself xD

 

@CelGen:  get yourself an Apple /// :) it's an awesome machine, way more "sophisticating" than a lot of pple think :wink: I love my little "oven" (get's kinda hot after a while but works like a charm)

 

Cheers,

Marcus


Edited by MarNo84, 13 May 2017 - 03:00 PM.

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