Twiggy Mac Boots up - software found!

[onlyonemac]

I'd also be interested in extracting the WDEF resources (if they were using resources yet), as those would be cool to patch into the system file of more modern systems.

 

[CelGen]

I'm pretty sure your hearts skipped a beat when you found the disks were timebombed. Good thing you thought to archive FIRST and experiment later. That could of ended badly.

 

[Paralel]

I'm really amazed that Jobs thought ahead to timebomb the disks. I bet that was not a common practice back in those days.

 

[CelGen]

I'm really amazed that Jobs thought ahead to timebomb the disks.

Who said it was Steve's call? Timebombing has been around for a while. Hell, during the Apple II dev days Apple supposedly had their custom chips decapped so that they would eventually fail within a week and the dev department had to fetch new ones.

 

[macosten]

Now if only we could get this System off the 'nets. I really want to see those "Steve Sez..." icons.

Maybe I should add it in via ResEdit instead... |) Whaddaya think, instead of that weird flat manface with a speech bubble, I'll make it Steve instead! ... That might work.

 

[onlyonemac]

How did you know what to do so that it didn't timebomb the disks?

EDIT: Where are my WDEF resources?

 

[slomacuser]

 

[macosten]

Definitely better than that other talking manface. :O I might just have to fire up ResEdit now... :beige:

I'd actually appreciate if someone were to make all of the scrapped icons from these documented builds, unless I get around to making them first, which, judging by the quickness of Slomacuser's response, won't happen.

Really, really awesome! Thanks again. :b&w:

Side note, I find it somewhat interesting that the desktop icons for the diskettes themselves were 3.5" diskettes. It's as if, by this point in the Mac's development, Apple already knew that they were to be using them instead of the twiggy disks...

 

[onlyonemac]

It would be better to copy the icons from the original file than to remake them manually.

 

[Charlieman]

It would be better to copy the icons from the original file than to remake them manually.

It would be easier, not 'better'.

For a one bit, pixel defined graphics format there is only one way to create an image.

 

[macosten]

Short of uploading the software online, pixel by pixel replication is the ONLY way to get these icons, and what interesting icons I think they are.

If anyone can mad an OS8/OS9 style version of the Jobs icon or the Sleepless Developer icon, uh, I'd like to see it? Idk, I'd better make a color System 7 version first :lol:

 

[techknight]

So the only way to read/duplicate these disks is use a twiggy lisa?

Hmm wonder if you attach direct to the processor bus, trap the CPU and then do a disk dump that way, then recording it to an SD card or something of the like. Or disassembling ROM to figure out how to run the twiggy mechanism and use the IWM directly.

 

[macosten]

Using the ResEdit palette, I came up with this coloring (in 2 different sizes)





Based on this picture below

http://www.erikjheels.com/Images/articles/2011-10-11-apple-steve-jobs-720x1296.jpg

Should work with ResEdit or something.

I really like these beta icons, they're new, fun, and more exciting than the final icons we got, imo. :b&w:

I suppose I should try the sleepless developer next? Give them purple swirly eyes and stuff? :approve:

 

[Mac512k]

We just had a reunion with the original Macintosh team, which included Woz himself - hosted by the Computer History Museum.

Thank you all for your support.

This is "Insanely Great"! I am proud to say that I was able to participate in this event. Please follow this link:

http://shrineofapple.com/blog/2013/09/12/twiggyevent/

 

[macosten]

That's actually rather awesome.

Then again, I'm a bit more curious about the software, as heretical as that sounds. :lol:

 

[macosten]

Right, I finally got around to making a Sleepless Developer icon. It took me a while, as I was putting it directly into ResEdit.



Remember, coffee is no substitute for sleep.

 

[onlyonemac]

Just had another thought...

Have you dumped the ROMs? And have you got more copies of the disks?

When last did you give them a run as well, by the way .

 

[CelGen]

Another Twiggy mac has surfaced.

the second, the Macintosh . looks like the classic, but its a yellowish color. the front has a drive for something but it's not a floppy, and apple logo . the back just has a apple logo and another logo with the word "apple " in it . the logo is in color and has a gray background , but the one with the word apple in which it is not. no labels on the back , but the logos i said. Also the back has written on it " Property of Apple Computer" . On the front, have a very unusual drive is longer and thinner than the classic ii, it has a big indent on the right side of it.. does not fit any disk i have, is much thinner . Maybe CD?
if the power that it goes to a gray screen , then a box then says some box comes up and says this:

Welcome to Macintosh . System Version 2.1

MacsBug installed.

Disassembly installed.

Debugger installed.

Booting ROM-Based OS

then goes to another screen that says the following:

This Macintosh personal computer is not fit for use by the general public. Please return this Macintosh to your local Apple dealer for replacement with a computer fit for use by the general public. Press "Continue" to view data specific to the dealer, or press "Restart" to restart the computer.

ok then continue clickingg says this:

UNITID 41504C-3431333833

TFS 3431333833

TFE 3432393833

EXPBY: -39373337

Dealer: Send to G.R, destroy ROMs and LB, destroy system OS and returned disks,

send to HUB reporting lost pre-dropdate unit & above data

I do not know what to do or how to do this . So now I have two macs broken and $ 40 down the drain. Should I throw these away or sell them , I dunno. Thanks for help on repairing units.

So he bought it for $20 at a flea market and thought it would be his starter system. We're all flipping out for him to post pictures however he seems to be confirming through verbal description that it does seem to have a twiggy drive and IT IS BOOTING.

I gave him incredibly structured instructions to NOT SET THE DATE. We know from restoring the other twiggy that they timebomb.

on the back theres a small port and battery lookd bad, kind of lookd like bulges and stuff was coming out . so I took the battery out. now i turn it on, and it asks for a date. so I tried Puttin on the date of today and I got the same message about it not being fit for use by the general public . i rebooted and date asked again. it's odd , but I'm afraid I might have damaged. if I put the battery in just goes directly to the message unfit for public.

I understand flaming people is not really allowed but were you dropped as a child? We just finished telling you to NOT SET THE DAMN DATE. You activated the timebomb. Now you can't boot the damn thing.

Anyways, we're all waiting for photos. I'm sure people are already flooding him with PM's. I'm pretty sure this is going to get ugly.

 

[mcdermd]

This guy sounds soooo trollish. Just sayin'.

 

[CelGen]

I'm being weary of that too. Something seems a touch suspicious yet so far unless anyone else disputes the uintID code and the likes I can't say if it's true or not. We'll know almost immediately though if and when he take photos.