"ultimate" 68k machine

[Bunsen]

You people and your friggin' Quadras. No Quadra is the ultimate 68k machine because no Quadra can run System 6.)

Kay then smarty trousers, what's the ultimate System 6 machine? Wanna start a thread?

 

[pee-air]

I've never understood the allure of System 6. I liken System 6 to GEOS on a Commodore 64; primative as primative can be. A/UX, on the other hand, now that's an operating system. One with one Hell of a learning curve too, I might add. [] ]'>

 

[Bunsen]

READ THIS CAREFULLY. You can now buy a NuBus or PCI card for your 68040 or greater Macintosh that contains 64 processors. Yes, 64 DSP-like processors that provide the first parallel processing solution for unprecedented image processing acceleration. PowerShop accelerates Adobe Photoshop functions by as much as 1000% over a PowerMac 8100. Pricing is expected to be about $3000 exclusive of necessary on-board memory.

GHAH! I passed on one of those about 6 months back because I didn't know what it was.

Found a mention of it here. The above is from here

 

[Quadraman]

what's the ultimate System 6 machine?

The IIfx thrashes System 6. I don't think any other Mac even comes close.

 

[bigD]

Heh - I just like being the System 6 evangelist around here. I don't blindly believe it's better - I understand that people have their own preferences.

For a stock machine of course a IIfx is king of the System 6 world, but I'm personally a big fan of the IIcx/IIci form factor, and consider either of those machines with a 50MHz '030 installed to be my 'ideal' System 6 box.

 

[trag]

Who made a 10/100 Ethernet card for nubus machines? That's pretty cool.

Both Farallon and Asante made 10/100 NuBus ethernet cards. They are a little rare, but I've seen the Asante cards go for under $30 on Ebay. I have not been watching closely, as I have a stash of them in the attic. Asante was, at one point, clearing out discontinued items. Things like 10/100 PCI cards with ethernet cable at prices that made it worth buying the card just to get the cable.

 

[trag]

SCSI on the beige G3 was deliberately designed as a low end interface to support legacy scanners, Zip drives etc. Apple had lost interest in creating their own high performance SCSI solutions, hence the market for Adaptec SCSI cards.
For the PowerBooks, assume slow SCSI. Were there any good PCMCIA or PC card SCSI adapters?

If it has an external port, and Apple built it, then the SCSI speed is unenhanced SCSI, i.e. 5 MB/s top speed and usually considerably slower.

Apple did not want the support issues of dealing with folks with external SCSI chains with high performance SCSI interfaces. At least with Fast internal SCSI (8100, x500, x600) they had some control over the internal ribbon cable shipped with the machine. With external SCSI, there's no telling what folks will daisy chain together, so Apple always kept it to 5 MB/s to minimize cable length issues, and incidentally, killing performance.

All this from a friend who was once a tech support guy at Power Computing.

 

[ChristTrekker]

Who made a 10/100 Ethernet card for nubus machines? That's pretty cool.

I've got one that I pulled out of a Duo Dock. Stuck it in my Q840. Unfortunately, NetBSD doesn't know what to do with it. (Reports as "nubus0 slot c: Fast EtherTX NuBus (Vendor: Farallon Computer, Part: PN-990) not configured" at boot.) I'd put it in my Q800, but A/UX doesn't have a clue either. I'm not sure a 68k could handle data that fast anyway...

 

[equill]

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While I cannot speak for cross-Pacific (now there's an Irish bull for you) usage in pig-Latin, I am more familiar with Non permittere bastardari carborundum to express the sentiment. It does at least contain what the other lacks: that part which translates(?) as the imperative 'Don't let ...'.

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