Trying to make a Win98 boot disk for Apple PC card...

[thatsteve]

Hello. I'm tearing my hair out here folks. I have a 9600 running 7.6.1, beast of a machine, flies. I have a PC compatibility card installed, the 166Mhz Pentium version. Following the steps on http://pccardfaq.com/ I have downloaded the drivers and the Win98 boot disk that the guy has made but am having trouble making a floppy from this boot disk .img! Disk Copy won't mount it, so I can't make a floppy. Same goes for the APPLEVDO.INF and Disk 2 of PC Setup 1.6.4 (which is to be used on the PC side at some point I believe).

HELP!

 

[markyb86]

if you have access to a Windows PC with a floppy drive, you'll need to use that and the shareware program "WinImage" to create the floppy the easy way. There is a way to use DD in mac OS X but that's something I personally read how to do each time, so I'm not comfortable explaining. If you want, I can copy you a 98 boot floppy and whatever needs to go on disk two just for postage cost? )

 

[thatsteve]

Thanks for that, I may well take you up on that offer, I am completely Windowless here, so can't do it myself.

I just find it maddening that I can't figure out how to do it on my 9600, it must be possible as the guy writing that site just nonchalantly throws in the comment "make a floppy from my Win98 boot disk using Apple's Disk Copy". I hate it when I can't figure out something which is apparently obvious...

 

[markyb86]

There is actually something wrong with that 98 boot disk image, along with the disk 2 of pc compatibility. neither of them will load for me. I created a 98se bootdisk however with CD ROM drivers, and included the APPLEVDO.INF and its accompanying read-me file. It seems that you can download and use the newer version of pc setup further down the page (it says it has issue with OS9 but you are using 7 so that shouldnt matter.

 

[thatsteve]

Sorry for delayed reply, life has been busy! A welcome glut of paying clients popped up and I've been cramming for an amateur radio exam in all my spare time. Ho hum! Private message on way...

 

[thatsteve]

Big thanks due to Mark here. He went to the trouble of running me off a Win98 boot disk and mailing it to me. You're a gentleman. Still wasn't straightforward though as the CD drivers on the new boot disk kept hanging the machine, so I had to boot with the boot disk that came with the Windows CD, then use the new one to format the disk (as the Microsoft disk didn't have FORMAT on it!!!!!) and only then could I move the requisite files onto the PC card virtual hard drive and start the installation proper. So Mark, you're a total lifesaver here bruv and I owe you a drink!

So I finally have Windows 98 installed on my compatibility card! I gotta say, I was way more excited about this than I should have been. It's just so whacky, and the Apple PC Card and software is such a neat and tidy solution, and so far working flawlessly. just need to do a bit of tweaking so it can share the Mac's ethernet and then it's online too!

 

[markyb86]

Awesome! Very glad to hear!

In the computer properties... what does it say for the type processor you are running under 98?

 

[thatsteve]

Its the 166Mhz Pentium. 80MB RAM total.

Mate, I'm a bit stuck, wonder if you can help...

From the PC Card FAQ site:

A PC Compatibility Card (Pentium version) can be installed into both a Power Mac 7600 and a Power Mac 8500 and successfully networked and run on both the Mac side and the Windows 95 side. Here is what to do:

 

First, install the PC compatibility card following the included instructions. This included installing DOS, and installing the Support Software from the diskette Apple included by running a:\setup from DOS.

 

Next, install Windows 95, and install the Windows Support Software on that same Apple diskette, by running a:\setup from inside Windows 95.

 

Create a directory called C:\NWCLIENT, and copy a standard PC ODI diskette over into that directory. ( delete the 3COM device drivers). Modify the following files to include the indicated statements:

 

CONFIG.SYS

LASTDRIVE=Z

 

AUTOEXEC.BAT

PATH=C:\DOS;C:\WINDOWS;C:\NWCLIENT

LSL

C:\APPLE\MACODI

C:\WINDOWS\ODIHLP.EXE

 

NET.CFG

LINK DRIVER MACODI

FRAME ETHERNET_II

 

Notice that we the "VLM" statement in the autoexec.bat file was not included.

Once this is done, configure Windows95 to use the "Existing ODI Driver" as its Network Adapter, and configure Windows95 as usual for IPX and TCP/IP networking.

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I understand how to set this up, the instructions are easy enough to follow, but I'm drawing a blank on the "standard PC ODI diskette" bit. I've been hitting Google for this but am turning nothing up. Do you know where I can find and download such a thing?

Cheers!

 

[markyb86]

I believe you need this driver

http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tools/13555.html

and then the rest of your directions should be spot on.

 

[thatsteve]

Thanks Mark. I've downloaded that, transported onto my 9600 via zip disk, moved into the Windows side by mounting the 2nd hard drive container and popping it there, unmounting, starting Windows and then moving to C:, and then unpacked it. Now what? hehe... When I doubleclick install.exe a little message tells me to run it from the command line, which I do but that then generates another error (i forget what exactly now and don't have the machine powered up yet to try again).

I'm sorry for being such a n00b but it's easily 10-12 years + since I had anything to do with Windows beyond the GUI and I'm completely lost with it...