Struggling with Performa 6360--need help

[3lectr1cPPC]

Don’t give up on that 6360! The BlueSCSI issues are expected, V1 doesn’t sit well with several models. Getting a better setup in place for that sort of thing will help you in the long run.

 

[pizzigri]

Yeah, I'm quite livid because of BlueSCSI, I spent a hefty amount of dough for having two useless things which are even too light to work as proper paperweight. In any case, for the OP, IDE2SD is the way to go IMHO

 

[mloret]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I caved and bought a ide2sd and I’ll be sure to use the directions. You talked me into it.

 

[Fizzbinn]

In prep for testing your board I pulled my 6360 out of storage this afternoon. I'm not sure if this is good or bad news but my BlueSCSI (v1 external) seems to work just fine with it...

Since I got it, I've used that BlueSCSI with a bunch of my Macs, kinda as a boot strap USB install drive, for setting up whatever internal drive I want to use in the Mac. The only Mac I could not get it work with was my Power Macintosh 4400.

 

[mloret]

It’s all so unpredictable and frustrating.

 

[Forrest]

You’re kidding! Well listen to what I tried…I have an older internal bluescsi running my SE/30. I decided to throw a Hail Mary and I pulled it out of my SE/30 and pulled out my Overeasy to give that a shot. Initially the computer actually booted up with the bluescsi connected. I saw the drives and everything. But even I tried to open one of the bluescsi drive images I got a bomb and system froze. Tried again and I was back to the system getting hung up immediately after boot. Switched SD cards out (same brand though) and it booted again, but this time the drive images didn’t mount. Launched scsi probe and it saw the drive image but when I tried to mount, bombed again. So I think the issue is with the bluescsi not the board. Right?

It sounds like you don’t have a good System to boot your 6360. According to MacTracker:

Original OS	System 7.5.3 (System Enabler 410)
Maximum OS	Mac OS 9.1

You should be able to download the original System 7.5.3 from Macintosh Garden
Looks like it’s download #27 on this page - same as disk as the 6400 Link

 

[mloret]

It sounds like you don’t have a good System to boot your 6360. According to MacTracker:

Original OS	System 7.5.3 (System Enabler 410)
Maximum OS	Mac OS 9.1

You should be able to download the original System 7.5.3 from Macintosh Garden
Looks like it’s download #27 on this page - same as disk as the 6400 Link

No problem have tried countless images and os versions. I don’t have think that is the cause. I have even tried the Performa 6360 cd mage from
Macintosh Garden. No different.

 

[mloret]

I read the ide2sd instructions, seem pretty easy. Once I have the sd card set up, Is it just a matter of disconnecting the ribbon cable from the HDD, plugging into the ise2sd card and power on?

 

[3lectr1cPPC]

You could also try reaching out to Eric Helgeson from the BlueSCSI team about your issue- he'd probably be happy to help you out.

 

[Phipli]

I read the ide2sd instructions, seem pretty easy. Once I have the sd card set up, Is it just a matter of disconnecting the ribbon cable from the HDD, plugging into the ise2sd card and power on?

Yeah. But make sure the adapter board can't short on the computer. You can probably use small cable ties to attach it to the drive sled, avoiding the rails' mating parts. You'll need to do what suits you.

 

[mloret]

You could also try reaching out to Eric Helgeson from the BlueSCSI team about your issue- he'd probably be happy to help you out.

Unfortunately when I have talked to him on Discord, he has referred me to the troubleshooting gitbhub page and asked me if I read it.

 

[pizzigri]

Strange. I will try to contact him and see if I can get help with mine. I do not have high expectations, as I tried to build the adapters myself instead of purchasing the kit - which was not available at the time, and seeing that a V. 2 came out, I now know why. Therefore, I am very disillusioned about the BlueSCSI.
problem with Zuluscsi is the high cost for shipping - unless, someone in EU is willing to share the costs with a group buy? I could do the initial purchased. In case, where would I post this idea? Dont want to hijack this thread more than I already did.

 

[mloret]

Maybe in the lounge? You haven’t hijacked. Were you able to try the bluescsi on a different machine? It sounds like 6360 was a bust?

 

[3lectr1cPPC]

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[mloret]

Strange. I will try to contact him and see if I can get help with mine. I do not have high expectations, as I tried to build the adapters myself instead of purchasing the kit - which was not available at the time, and seeing that a V. 2 came out, I now know why. Therefore, I am very disillusioned about the BlueSCSI.
problem with Zuluscsi is the high cost for shipping - unless, someone in EU is willing to share the costs with a group buy? I could do the initial purchased. In case, where would I post this idea? Dont want to hijack this thread more than I already did.

You might also add a thread in trading post “WTB: Zuluscsi”

There might be someone in here who has an extra they want to unload for cheap. That’s how I got mine.

 

[Phipli]

Why not order from amigakit?

Amiga Kit Amiga Store - the world's largest Amiga Store - we ship worldwide

AmigaKit Amiga Shop - we ship worldwide. Manufacturer and distributor of Commodore Amiga computer adapters, A500 RAM expansions, A1200 turbo cards and A600 memory upgrades. A1200 Dust covers and mouse mats. Joysticks and games.

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To Italy, that's $76.74, then you add postage (likely about $15 to $25), then add tax, likely ~20% of the price + shipping.

I'm estimating because it doesn't let me see without logging in, but that would be $110.

This is why Europeans don't buy as many SD card adapters.

 

[3lectr1cPPC]

Ah. Makes sense.

 

[mloret]

Good morning! I wanted to let you guys know that I got the darn Bluescsi to work on the Performa 6360 after much gnashing of teeth. What a pain! I tried a million things so I am not 100% sure what did the trick but here’s what I think—1. Desktop BlueSCSI, NOT db25. I was never able to get the db25 to work correctly but the Desktop version seemed to work okay when I used my Overeasy OR plugged it into the scsi slot where the cd drive goes and 2. A different branded SD card (San Disk) overwrite formatted with SD Card Formatter. I think these two tricks were the key to getting this POS to work. You guys were right though—SCSI is slower than IDE. I will give IDE2SD a try as well as a ZuluSCSI for good measure. Thank you for the help!

Ps. If anyone has an extra working CD player, this one is dead as can be?

 

[mloret]

Hey I was just looking at the layout of the IDE2SD board I bought and I see the space for a molex connector for power as well as the connector for the IDE cable. Hmm, what's the best way to set this up in a PPC case?

 

[Phipli]

Hey I was just looking at the layout of the IDE2SD board I bought and I see the space for a molex connector for power as well as the connector for the IDE cable. Hmm, what's the best way to set this up in a PPC case?

The 6360 has a molex for the hard disk? What is the issue?