SE/30 + Asante Ethernet: close, but no cigar

[Huxley]

Excellent!

Since I have an SE/30 with ethernet, I should get myself one of those old switches so I can use that port for something (to that end, what model is your switch?)

c

Mine is a Netgear "FS105" 5-port 10/100MBPS "Fast Ethernet Switch," aka "the one I found at the bottom of the e-waste pile in my old office a few years ago." It's small and works beautifully for these sorts of projects, so I highly recommend it if you can find one cheap.

 

[jhorvath911]

Now take that switch and connect it to your router. Manually set up your tcp/ip and you'll probably be golden.

 

[retrobecanes]

Short answer: 

Musashi 3.4.1.

Long answer: 

Email on the SE/30 is tricky. No clients (to my knowledge) support SSL, required by all modern email servers, and that limits you right out of the gate. The bare minimum modern standard you need is SMTP authentication, and only a handful of clients for System 7.5.5 support it (Musashi, SweetMail, Green, Mulberry).

Even if you have one of those clients, you need a modern email service that will let you log in without SSL, which do exist, although who knows for how long. I pointed a subdomain I have to a service called ZazzoWeb, which is about $2 a month for an email address. I forwarded my Gmail to that address, and set my Gmail address as the "Reply-To" in the email client on the SE/30. It works.

Others have successfully implemented an SSL tunnel to get their Gmail on their 68k Mac with an older client, but I gave up on it. The upside to my method is you don't have to have a helper Mac. There is also a utility floating around called Baton Mail that was used to add SMTP Auth capabilities to older Mac clients by sending outgoing mail to Baton Mail, but I had limited success with it.

Musashi works very well with only minor hiccups and quirks. I prefer SweetMail which you can customize to no end, but the typing lag is pretty bad, even with max RAM.

Cheers.

Hi guys I am looking for a copy of Mushashi 3.4.1 for the SE/30.  Can anyone provide an image?

 

[jrwil]

Hi guys I am looking for a copy of Mushashi 3.4.1 for the SE/30.  Can anyone provide an image?

Here are the two archives I have lying around. Unzip this file on a modern mac to get the Old World archives.

Since writing the comment you quoted, I was able to get Stunnel working on my primary Mac using the config file another forum member posted in this thread. If Gmail is your goal, that eliminates the need for another email address/forwarding/etc.

 

[retrobecanes]

Here are the two archives I have lying around. Unzip this file on a modern mac to get the Old World archives.

Since writing the comment you quoted, I was able to get Stunnel working on my primary Mac using the config file another forum member posted in this thread. If Gmail is your goal, that eliminates the need for another email address/forwarding/etc.

Thanks JrWil, I will give those a shot.  I tried to use Eudora Lite but the configuration settings are too limited and do not let me specificy POP server and Port information so I can't use my STunnel setup on the RaspberryPi.  I am hoping that Mushashi allows for finer tuning of POP/SMTP server IPs, port, and password authentication.

 

[SE30_Neal]

Would anyone have the asanta driver on floppy i could buy, im having difficulty been able being able to get it onto me se/30

Neal

 

[SE30_Neal]

As my current mac wont read hfs format

 

[Boctor]

Would anyone have the asanta driver on floppy i could buy, im having difficulty been able being able to get it onto me se/30

Neal

There are two versions of the Asante drivers that I've seen online, and the Mac Driver Museum has them both. If you want a floppy image for writing the disk with dd in OS X, I can extract one of these and make it into a disk image on my PowerMac G4. Then you wouldn't need to pay anyone for a physical disk. I used to have a setup for using SheepShaver to make floppies for my SE/30, but it was pretty convoluted.

 

[SE30_Neal]

Thanks boctor, so how would i get the disc imagine to the the se/30, sorry for sounding simple im new to the old mac thing?

 

[SE30_Neal]

Dd?

 

[Boctor]

Thanks boctor, so how would i get the disc imagine to the the se/30, sorry for sounding simple im new to the old mac thing?

Dd?

dd is a utility from Unix that can write Macintosh (or really any) disks. On Windows, there's ImageWriter for making floppies. They both read a regular binary format, sometimes saved with the extension ".img". I could make a binary image containing the Asante installer, for either a 1440k or 800k Macintosh floppy, depending on what you need. I'd also need to know which Asante driver you want. I think the later versioned one works the best, or so I've read.

Then you'd just need to write the image file to a floppy on Windows, Linux, or OS X. Really anything with a floppy writing program that can read raw data. The result would be a normal Mac floppy, readable by the SE/30.

 

[SE30_Neal]

Ah great ok ill need to get my old mac mini out and try and set that up. Se/30 is on 1.44. If i use the mini that would make my life so much easier as ive got nowhere getting either my se/30 or powerbook 1400cs online because i e not need able to get the drivers ir the software i want on the machines

 

[SE30_Neal]

Im on 7.1 at the moment 8 on the powerbook. I'll try get the mini setup this weekend and try out the software, if i can do that ill be sorted. Ive also just recived my LocalTalk cable to network the 2 old machines together as well as ordered 32mb of memory for the se/30 and a wifi pcmcia card for the PowerBook so hopefully i should be able to get something up and running but if i dont i might be back in touch about the disc image . Thanks neal

 

[Boctor]

The attached WinImage file (Which should work for dd on OS X, or really any raw image writer) is taken from a disk of the slightly-older Asante software. Downloading the later version would only give me a zero-length file. I put together the disk on my PowerMac G4, then made this binary image on my ThinkPad.

However, you may not need this software for the PDS card, if you can get MacTCP/OpenTransport running on the SE/30. The entirety of the SE/30 problems I've been having were apparently from concealed dirt in my logic board, and now my Asante card is automatically recognized by 7.5.3 w/ MacTCP.

If this image doesn't work correctly for any reason, I can plug my floppy drive into my MacBook Air and copy a sure-fire one with dd. I believe that the blocksize on Macintosh floppies (dd uses the argument "bs" for this) is 84. I haven't used OS X in ages, and I have been making most of my floppies on either Windows 7 or Mac OS 9.2.2.

asante-image.zip

 

[SE30_Neal]

Thanks boctor

 

[SE30_Neal]

Thanks boctor

 

[9166188]

I have an SE/30 with 32 Megs of RAM running 7.5.3.  It is equipped with an Asante MacCon+ ethernet card.  When I connect the ethernet card to my router (NetGear Prosafe switch) I do get a green light at the card and at the router and some activity.  I have installed the Asante drivers referemced in the post above and the installation reported as being successful.  The MacTCP is set manually.  However when I go to 'network' under the control panel and attempt to set it to ethertalk, the system responds with "could not switch to ethertalk due to an error. Your connection will be reset to LocalTalk."  I have tried the Asante Troubleshooter v1.7.1 but the only test that passes is the memory buffer test.  The other tests result in a NIC transmission failed.  The ADLS 1.6 tool from Asante fails also but I assume that this is due to the fact that I couldn't select ethertalk.  Any help would be appreciated.

Hi, did you get Asante ethernet card work for your SE/30 at the end?   I am running into the same issue: