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Recommissioning a long-dormant IIfx

halkyardo

Well-known member
First, a little background. While I'm new to 68kMLA, I'm a long-time collector and enthusiast of old hardware of all kinds, Apple gear especially. At my peak, I had a IIfx, a IIci, about ten assorted compact Macs, and all manner of goodies and peripherals (at one point, the IIfx was driving a pair of gorgeous 19" Radius two-page displays). Sadly, an international move meant that I had to part with most of that gear some years ago. The IIfx came with me, but has languished in the basement for the best part of a decade, first scavenged for parts, then ignored as other interests and commitments (old cars, in particular) came first.

Lacking anything better to do this winter, and an unheated garage being rather unappealing for my car projects, I thought I'd have a go at resurrecting it, with an eye to putting to good use an A/UX install disc that I've acquired. I got as far as putting some fresh PRAM batteries in and applying power. The power supply fan spun up as expected, but was cut short by a rather spectacular display of fireworks from capacitor C1 on the logic board. I ran across this thread which seems to discuss a similar issue, but I was wondering if anyone could point me to any other potential gotchas and things that I should fix preemptively to avoid any other such disasters. The system is clean, with no evidence of battery leakage, and all the caps look fine (though, C1 looked fine too, until it caught fire...).

Assuming I can get the machine to boot, I'm going to need to find a hard disk for it, as the original was long since 'borrowed' for use in another machine. Since I have no desire to mess with half-dead old SCSI-1 disks, and have an surplus of SD cards on hand, the SCSI2SD looks appealing. However, I remember how touchy the SCSI bus on the IIfx is, and wondered if anybody has had any experiences, good or bad, with a SCSI2SD board in one.

 

Trash80toHP_Mini

NIGHT STALKER
Welcome aboard!

IIfx SCSI was twitchy for external peripherals in early production, requiring the higher resistance values of the black terminator to be attached at the beginning of the external chain, IIRC. Pretty sure that's akin to later SCSI implementations in PowerBooks which specified passthru termination on the end of Apple's adapter cable. Some folks always jump in and say the black terminator is never really needed, but I'll go with Apple's story.

My IIfx has no problems with a CD on the internal chain that's installed in the HDD bay, so it's difficult for me to imagine a problem with SCSI2SD. Also interested in hearing about that.

 

boitoy1996

Well-known member
Wow.  Fireworks?  I had a board blow caps before, but it was rather un-dramatic.  a few pops but no sparks.  Anyways...... does it appear as if anything else was damaged upon a visual inspection?  Perhaps you can just replace that cap and be lucky.  I hope it didnt ruin the board.

I wanted to add that the SCSI2SD is a good idea.  It should keep C1 from reblowing as too much a load on C1 from the hard drive can cause it to go out

 
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halkyardo

Well-known member
Wow.  Fireworks?  I had a board blow caps before, but it was rather un-dramatic.  a few pops but no sparks.  Anyways...... does it appear as if anything else was damaged upon a visual inspection?  Perhaps you can just replace that cap and be lucky.  I hope it didnt ruin the board.

I wanted to add that the SCSI2SD is a good idea.  It should keep C1 from reblowing as too much a load on C1 from the hard drive can cause it to go out
Oh yes, it was quite spectacular. Flames and everything. Thankfully, C1 is fairly well away from everything else, so there doesn't seem to be any other collateral damage, at least from a visual inspection.

On closer inspection (wearing the right glasses helps!), there are a couple of aluminium surface-mount electrolytics that show signs of having leaked. If I'm replacing one cap, I suppose I might as well replace the lot.



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BadGoldEagle

Well-known member
This just proves that tantalum caps have an expiration date too. Don't think your board will last forever with those caps either. And when they go, they really go.

Every board should be recapped every 15 to 20 years or so. And now I guess is indeed a good time to replace those caps. C9 is definitely leaking as well.

 

Von

Well-known member
Sorry to hear the 4th of July came early...

If you can't salvage the board, I have one sitting in my closet that I bought for the fx ROM to be used in my SE/30.  I don't know if it is functional and I am still contemplating scavenging the the CPU and math coprocessor.  PM if you are interested.

 
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