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Office Suite for PowerBook 180c Recommendations?

avadondragon

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I was recently given a PB180c to replace the one that died on me 12 years ago and I'm trying to get together some software to put on it.

Right now I'm wondering what office suite would be best. Any suggestions? ClarisWorks 4? 5?

Additional software ideas are welcome as well.

OH! And I am especially interested in finding AppleTalk network games that will run on 68k machines... but I'll be starting another thread for that I guess. Gonna be having an antique Mac LAN party soon!

 

lameboyadvance

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MS Office 4.2.1 and Claris/AppleWorks 5.0.3 were the last to work on 68k. Both work on a 68030 or higher, and need 8MB (for Office) and 12MB (for Works) RAM.

They were both good for their time. Not really sure which one I'd go for.

I suppose it depends on what office package you currently use. MS Office might have better compatibility with modern office packages than ClarisWorks.

There may be other packages, but there were the two I used.

 

Scott Baret

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Make your own. I like Word 5.1 and Excel 3.0 best, plus MacDraw II is a great drawing/layout program.

I honestly have never really used PowerPoint on the older systems but if you need it they do have some older versions available!!

 

techknight

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I havent used powerpoint since my school days, So unless your in the professional/school environment, I would skip it. 

 

techknight

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Yea, thats also true. I remember using claris back in the day quite alot. 

Didnt clarisworks become appleworks? 

 

lameboyadvance

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Somewhere between 5.0 and 5.0.3 ClarisWorks became AppleWorks.

I think I remember *Works of that era being better than MS Office in Mac compatibility. Problem is if you're using it to edit documents meant to be usable on modern day office packages, is it even possible?

AFAIK Office still supports loading of Office 4.2/Word 6 documents. Don't think I've seen anything loading ClarisWorks documents (not that I've looked/tried).

 

ArmorAlley

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I really liked back the Pro line from Claris — MacWrite Pro 1.5, MacDraw Pro 1.5, FileMaker Pro 2.5, MacProject Pro. There was a spreadsheet, too, and I've forgotten its name. I remember being impressed that it could handle billions of rows and wondering how lmuch time the mac would need to process it. Top it off with Illustrator 3.1, Photoshop 2.5, Quark XPress 3.1  | PageMaker 3.5 and Lemmings and you have a nifty mac from 1994.

As for modern compatibility, you may need a bridge software. I have ClarisWorks 6 for the PC for this reason. My copy of Word 2013 can open 'Word Documents' but whether that goes back as far as Word 6 is another matter.

 

techknight

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I dont think it was up until office 2007 they changed formats. Word 6 opens my office 2k3 docs and vice versa. But anything with the newer X extension definitely not.

 
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register

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Consider to try RagTime 3.2. This is a fully integrated office solution, including a word processor, a quite capable layout module with basic vector drawing tools, and a spreadsheet module with data visualisation. I produced several large documents using RagTime 3.2 on a PowerBook 180 with System 7.1. RagTime 4 is still usable on a PB180, but RagTime 3.2 is really snappy. If you want more than just a text processor but not all of the sophisticated layout gimmicks in QuarkXpress, look for RagTime 3.2. The application (vers. 3.2) is official available in a version to be used free of charge for non-commercial purposes. There is only one hitch: as far as I know, it comes with menu commands in French and German language and I did not find an English version, yet, There are only a few professional support experts left for RagTime 3.2. However: as opposite to Word, you may fire up ResEdit at any time and dig into the ressources with ease. My copy has been hacked and modded, early. If someone would step in to localise a version in another language I would be willing to contribute (like proofreading).

A most recommended manual is available at the used books store.

The current incarnation of this software is RagTime 6.5.2, It is available in several languages, supporting Mac OS X 10.4.2 up to 10.10 as well as Win 2000 up to 8, and working with Linux using Wine (plenty of). On a Mac it does extensively support AppleScript! Current versions of RagTime do at least open and convert ancient RagTime documents, even on Windows systems.

The workflow is simple in any version of RagTime: choose the paper size, draw a container (frame) of selectable orientation and shape (i.e. a rectangle) and place content into the container. One may choose from content types as text, picture, spreadsheet, diagram (and more in recent versions), format containers and content at any time, set up rules to automatically create new pages with new containers and control the flow of content from one container to other containers. This application is still my favourite solution for desktop publishing, even in the presence of M$ Office (which costs less bucks but more time to achieve similar output) or OpenOffice (which is slow and lacks some beauty of the user interface). I would vote against Word 5.1 for layout work because of mediocre typesetting and layout results. Word can be considered as one of the least Mac-like programs you could find for Classic Mac OS (no matter if you look for the user interface or the programming style).

 

CelGen

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I run Microsoft Office on my 180 personally. Save my work to a PC formatted disk, put the floppy in a PC and then I can continue working on my assignments there.

 

avadondragon

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Thank everyone for all the input!  I'm leaning towards ClarisWorks.  It feels more Mac-ish to me and I have fond memories of using it on the school computers long ago.  I'm pretty sure current versons of LibreOffice can still import the file types.

@CelGen:  Which version of MS Office do you run on your 180?

@register:  I've never heard of RagTime before I will definately take a look at it.

 
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