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Mac II Shortage?

Quadraman

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TylerEss

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Not just someone; our very own Dana!

As for the wicked-fast IIfx: I think it would make a really great vintage science workstation. The 68882 is faster clock-for-clock than the '040 builtin FPU. Put heatsinks on the CPU and FPU and overclock your IIfx to 50MHz, and you'd have the fastest 68k Mathematica machine available. I bet you could even take it beyond 50MHz just by swapping in 50MHz rated 68030 and 68882 chips and overclocking more. I'd put a heatsink on the chipset and only use the brand-new RAM that somebody made, just to be sure. :)

I'd run System 7.5 or 7.6 on it, for sure. I'd run 8.1 if I wanted an 8.1 box. :) It would really smoke in 6.0.8. It'd be great no matter what, and I wouldn't hesitate to run anything on it!

 

FunnymanSE30

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Not just someone; our very own Dana!
As for the wicked-fast IIfx: I think it would make a really great vintage science workstation. The 68882 is faster clock-for-clock than the '040 builtin FPU. Put heatsinks on the CPU and FPU and overclock your IIfx to 50MHz, and you'd have the fastest 68k Mathematica machine available. I bet you could even take it beyond 50MHz just by swapping in 50MHz rated 68030 and 68882 chips and overclocking more. I'd put a heatsink on the chipset and only use the brand-new RAM that somebody made, just to be sure. :)

I'd run System 7.5 or 7.6 on it, for sure. I'd run 8.1 if I wanted an 8.1 box. :) It would really smoke in 6.0.8. It'd be great no matter what, and I wouldn't hesitate to run anything on it!
I run 7.6.1 on my IIfx, and I have thought about dropping a 50mhz 030 and 68882 in it and maybe overclocking to 60mhz. I'd also like to get some science equipment, some interesting cards and a bigger desk for it.

 

equill

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... I would hate to get one with a small amount of Ram with no prospect of upgrading it though, as it would feel such a shame to have such a powerful machine but made almost useless by something like lack of Ram ...
... I'd put a heatsink on the chipset and only use the brand-new RAM that somebody made, just to be sure ...
Fear not, gentle soldiers. Jeff Walther sells a new 4 x 16MB 64-pin set of RAM on eBay every week. That enterprise alone could rekindle/have rekindled renascence of interest in the IIfx.

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Quadraman

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What components of 7.6 don't work on 68ks? The only one I can think of off-hand is Graphing Calculator, at least that one is installed by default and produces a message saying it can't run - are there others that don't even get installed on a 68k so I've never seen?
Regarding PPC upgrade cards, are these the ones where the original 68k CPU remains inside the machine but the PPC does most (all?) of the processing? How exactly do they work, as I would have assumed if it has a PPC processor it can run any PPC-only OS, but presumably the 68k CPU is still doing something which is why it's difficult to run 8.5? (and 9 doesn't work at all?)
On 7.6 you don't get OpenDoc, OD Essentials or Cyberdog (admittedly not a big deal with those considering how they turned out), you also don't get Quickdraw 3d or Quickdraw GX. There's about 25 install options on the checklist, and 68k users lose out on about 8 of them. That's a third of the OS. I did 2 7.6 installs recently so I remember being given error messages on about that many things. I'll be doing another install on a Quadra soon, so I'll be sure to take notes of what doesn't get installed.

 

Unknown_K

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I run OS 7.1 on my IIfx (and other 030's). Its usable and speedy at the same time (32MB of RAM). While I would like 128MB on a IIfx, it would take a while to boot and even at $50 a set its still too pricey.

 

TylerEss

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On 7.6 you don't get OpenDoc, OD Essentials or Cyberdog (admittedly not a big deal with those considering how they turned out), you also don't get Quickdraw 3d or Quickdraw GX.
I've gotten OpenDoc and OpenDoc Essentials with every 7.6 "easy install" on a 68k Mac that I've ever done. That, combined with the "7.6 custom installs do an easy install no matter what you choose" bug, is why I don't run 7.5.5 on 68k Macs that could take 7.6 anyway. I don't want to have to delete OpenDoc. :)

 

Quadraman

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On 7.6 you don't get OpenDoc, OD Essentials or Cyberdog (admittedly not a big deal with those considering how they turned out), you also don't get Quickdraw 3d or Quickdraw GX.
I've gotten OpenDoc and OpenDoc Essentials with every 7.6 "easy install" on a 68k Mac that I've ever done. That, combined with the "7.6 custom installs do an easy install no matter what you choose" bug, is why I don't run 7.5.5 on 68k Macs that could take 7.6 anyway. I don't want to have to delete OpenDoc. :)
I'll check again, but I am fairly certain that OpenDoc wouldn't install on the last Quadra I did. I know it's not installed my 700. And what do you mean custom installs don't work?? I was able to pick and choose which options I wanted installed every time I installed it.

 
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TylerEss

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...Strange. I think my 7.6 CD is a Z-MultiCountry English one. Maybe it's different than the US English one?

 
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