Mac 512k HyperDrive

JC8080

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I have actually had this machine for a couple years, the conquest is the controller board I just picked up from eBay that brought the machine back to life.

When I bought the machine the internal drive did not work. When I first took it apart to inspect it I found that a resistor on the MiniScribe drive board (not the HyperDrive daughterboard) had failed and done some damage to the PCB. I also did not like how the spindle turned by hand, it made some noises that a hard drive generally should not. The drive is a HyperDrive 8425 MFM drive, after quite a bit of searching I purchased one from @mgmac that he had been using with an Amiga. I put the drive in, crossed my fingers, and... no dice. There was no disk activity, and the HyperDrive utility could not see the drive.

After working with a friend to do some troubleshooting, it was determined the controller board had likely failed. I kept my eye out for one for quite a while, finally one popped up on eBay. It was a HyperDrive 20 controller out of a Plus, and the controller and Plus LB came together. The Plus controller is a newer version than my original board, it is dated 1986 vs 1985 and has a considerably different layout. I installed it and powered up, the drive did it's normal startup routine, but nothing more. I went into the HyperDrive utility and tried the format command, and sure enough the drive came to life and works great.

I also looked at the serial number and this machine started life as a 128k. Previously I thought it had a logic board swap to 512k, but looking more closely I found it has the original 128k board with some mods to bring the total RAM to 512k.

Sorry for the poor quality photos, the lighting was terrible so I had do a bit of enhancement to make the photos usable. The machine is not nearly as yellow in person, though it does have a bit of yellowing on the sides towards the front of the case. The screen works great, I just couldn't get a good photo of it, so it looks very dim in the photos.

The very last photo is the non-working daughterboard, the photo above that is the new working board.

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Crutch

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Great post. I love HyperDrives, I have two somewhere in the basement - maybe time to dig em out.
 

JC8080

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Great post. I love HyperDrives, I have two somewhere in the basement - maybe time to dig em out.
They're pretty interesting ,they filled a need for a brief moment in time between the release of the Mac and when Apple got into the hard drive game. Just a neat piece of history.
 

VCSMaster

Member
Great post. I love HyperDrives, I have two somewhere in the basement - maybe time to dig em out.
Do you happen to have the original HyperDrive 10 mechanism? Specifically, the Microcomputer Memories Inc (MMI) MM-112 hard disk drive that shipped with the 10MB version. I've run across a prototype of this disk mechanism with a bad EPROM and I either need a drive to image the EPROM from (I would be happy to buy the drive from you) or for someone who would be kind enough to read the EPROM for me to repair this exceptionally rare artifact.
 
I have actually had this machine for a couple years, the conquest is the controller board I just picked up from eBay that brought the machine back to life.

When I bought the machine the internal drive did not work. When I first took it apart to inspect it I found that a resistor on the MiniScribe drive board (not the HyperDrive daughterboard) had failed and done some damage to the PCB. I also did not like how the spindle turned by hand, it made some noises that a hard drive generally should not. The drive is a HyperDrive 8425 MFM drive, after quite a bit of searching I purchased one from @mgmac that he had been using with an Amiga. I put the drive in, crossed my fingers, and... no dice. There was no disk activity, and the HyperDrive utility could not see the drive.

After working with a friend to do some troubleshooting, it was determined the controller board had likely failed. I kept my eye out for one for quite a while, finally one popped up on eBay. It was a HyperDrive 20 controller out of a Plus, and the controller and Plus LB came together. The Plus controller is a newer version than my original board, it is dated 1986 vs 1985 and has a considerably different layout. I installed it and powered up, the drive did it's normal startup routine, but nothing more. I went into the HyperDrive utility and tried the format command, and sure enough the drive came to life and works great.

I also looked at the serial number and this machine started life as a 128k. Previously I thought it had a logic board swap to 512k, but looking more closely I found it has the original 128k board with some mods to bring the total RAM to 512k.

Sorry for the poor quality photos, the lighting was terrible so I had do a bit of enhancement to make the photos usable. The machine is not nearly as yellow in person, though it does have a bit of yellowing on the sides towards the front of the case. The screen works great, I just couldn't get a good photo of it, so it looks very dim in the photos.

The very last photo is the non-working daughterboard, the photo above that is the new working board.

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I know this post is old but you don’t by any chance still have the old broken Hyperdrive controller board do you? I fear mine is faulty too and am hoping to get hold of another (even another broken one for parts) to try to get mine working!
 

JC8080

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I know this post is old but you don’t by any chance still have the old broken Hyperdrive controller board do you? I fear mine is faulty too and am hoping to get hold of another (even another broken one for parts) to try to get mine working!
Unfortunately I do not. What are the symptoms of your faulty board?

There is currently a mostly complete HyperDrive kit on eBay, though $550 + $50 shipping is a good chunk of change.
 
Unfortunately I do not. What are the symptoms of your faulty board?

There is currently a mostly complete HyperDrive kit on eBay, though $550 + $50 shipping is a good chunk of change.

Yeah, there's no way I'm spending that! 😂

Not sure exactly what's wrong with it yet. Sometimes it only detects 305 cylinders, sometimes 611. It tries to format them but only ever using head 0 and head 2 and never manages to create a drawer.

I’ve been in touch with David Gesswein (who invented the MFM emulator I'm using) and he’s very kindly pointed me towards getting a USB signal analyser to check that pin 34 (head select 0 line) is working on the ribbon cable.
 

VCSMaster

Member
Yeah, there's no way I'm spending that! 😂

Not sure exactly what's wrong with it yet. Sometimes it only detects 305 cylinders, sometimes 611. It tries to format them but only ever using head 0 and head 2 and never manages to create a drawer.

I’ve been in touch with David Gesswein (who invented the MFM emulator I'm using) and he’s very kindly pointed me towards getting a USB signal analyser to check that pin 34 (head select 0 line) is working on the ribbon cable.
Hello! I still have the kit for mine, which includes the controller. I would trade it all for just the mechanism - I'm specifically looking for the MMI MM112 disk drive that shipped with early HyperDrives. I'd be happy to provide you with a suitable replacement drive, from Rodime, Miniscribe, or Seagate to ensure the kit is functionally complete. I do not know the working state of the board since I do not have a 512k Macintosh into which to install it, though.

Let me know if you're interested!
 
Hello! I still have the kit for mine, which includes the controller. I would trade it all for just the mechanism - I'm specifically looking for the MMI MM112 disk drive that shipped with early HyperDrives. I'd be happy to provide you with a suitable replacement drive, from Rodime, Miniscribe, or Seagate to ensure the kit is functionally complete. I do not know the working state of the board since I do not have a 512k Macintosh into which to install it, though.

Let me know if you're interested!
Just noticed I've replied to you on the other thread :)
 
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