Local estate find in San Diego

[ried]

I see you picked up the ISAAC cards I gave him. Is the box to the side by chance 68K processor boards with german documentation? He borrowed those from me along with the Future Visions card in box any many more things.

Messaged you.

 

[TristinAEvans]

I am not involved the estate's liquidation. The family is managing it themselves, and I was put into contact with the executor (a family member) by another local vintage Apple enthusiast. I do not know how many people have visited the property, before or after me. You can tell that it's been rifled through, based on the photos I took yesterday.

There is no proper inventory and, indeed, such an undertaking should be handled by professionals. But that is entirely up to the family.

All I ask is that people please stop bothering the surviving family members.

Check your messages, if possible I'd love to swing by sooner rather than later.

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

As paulhagstrom.1921 mentioned, that content belonged to a very long-time giant in the Apple II community. It would be great for the community and maybe the family for a benevolent buyer (quick somebody call Richard Garriott?) to get it all and catalog it and then use it or distribute it. This kind of hardware doesn't really do anyone any good, and maybe give the family some peace to see things properly moved on, after they keep what they want.

 

[Tarantulas]

Before anyone buys anything else, or pads out their own collection, there needs to be an organized effort to return every item that was loaned to Tony to its original owner.

Calling this a "Conquest" and scrabbling for a rare item is nothing more than taking a hot runny dump over everything Tony contributed to this community.

Do better.

 

[AndyO]

Before anyone buys anything else, or pads out their own collection, there needs to be an organized effort to return every item that was loaned to Tony to its original owner.

Calling this a "Conquest" and scrabbling for a rare item is nothing more than taking a hot runny dump over everything Tony contributed to this community.

Do better.

While I agree with the sentiment, except the 'Do better' bit perhaps, the problem seems to me that in order to resolve the question of ownership, it will be necessary for those who lent Tony any of these items to demonstrate to the family that they are the rightful owners.

People scrabbling for a conquest isn't really the problem.

 

[joshc]

Before anyone buys anything else, or pads out their own collection, there needs to be an organized effort to return every item that was loaned to Tony to its original owner.

Calling this a "Conquest" and scrabbling for a rare item is nothing more than taking a hot runny dump over everything Tony contributed to this community.

Do better.

OP posted in Conquests in good faith if you actually read the original post. They were in contact with the family and obviously wanted to post here because the collection contains some unique items. I am glad they did - I hadn't seen a lot of that stuff before.

Drama isn't welcome here and doesn't really help matters. It's quite obvious you don't have the full story, so why comment as if you do?

I too hope the rightful owners of property that was loaned recieve their items back.

 

[a2fan]

KansasFest would very much like to do something with this collection. Our goal would be to scan, document and publish as much as possible and make publicly available as part of our museum initiative.

There are some pieces of hardware that are synonymous with Tony. Our idea was to create a rotating memorial display. We wanted to establish a scholarship fund in his name with the California Civil Air Patrol and accept donations for it. Other hardware pieces were to be made available to members of the community to study, document... possibly to clone.

The source code to several important software projects... source to bbs software, applications, games, utilities. It boggles the mind.

 

[Tarantulas]

While I agree with the sentiment, except the 'Do better' bit perhaps, the problem seems to me that in order to resolve the question of ownership, it will be necessary for those who lent Tony any of these items to demonstrate to the family that they are the rightful owners.

People scrabbling for a conquest isn't really the problem.

Well before taking anything off the pile that might belong to someone, you ask first.

So yes, treating it like a conquest and taking items that might belong to someone else IS A PROBLEM, and speaks volumes about the ethics of the people doing the taking.

Anyone with email/IM correspondence with Tony should have enough of a claim to get their items back.

 

[Tarantulas]

Drama isn't welcome here and doesn't really help matters. It's quite obvious you don't have the full story, so why comment as if you do?

It's only drama if you're on the side of anyone pilfering the collection.

And I don't know the details, which is why this would have been best handled as less of a "conquest," and more of a "a respected member of the community has passed. How do we protect this collection from the "Polkadots" of this hobby?"

 

[lobust]

It's only drama if you're on the side of anyone pilfering the collection.

And I don't know the details, which is why this would have been best handled as less of a "conquest," and more of a "a respected member of the community has passed. How do we protect this collection from the "Polkadots" of this hobby?"

Stop moralising.

OP is an upstanding member of the forum and should be given the benefit of the doubt. You are jumping to conclusions unfairly.

 

[ried]

I didn't even know the name of the deceased (or his place in the community) until other forum members told me.

This is heartbreaking on a lot of levels. First, that a prominent community member passed away. Second, that his family is having a hard time with the loss and managing the estate. Third, that people in these forums jump to conclusions and assume the worst of everyone involved.

 

[TristinAEvans]

I didn't even know the name of the deceased (or his place in the community) until other forum members told me.

This is heartbreaking on a lot of levels. First, that a prominent community member passed away. Second, that his family is having a hard time with the loss and managing the estate. Third, that people in these forums jump to conclusions and assume the worst of everyone involved.

Check your messages, please.

 

[AndyO]

Well before taking anything off the pile that might belong to someone, you ask first.

So yes, treating it like a conquest and taking items that might belong to someone else IS A PROBLEM, and speaks volumes about the ethics of the people doing the taking.

Anyone with email/IM correspondence with Tony should have enough of a claim to get their items back.

Not being slightly interested in anything, all I can say is that if I were, you wouldn't be at all likely to figure into my consideration. The family would, and if they believe - rightly or wrongly - that they have a right to sell, that is all there is to it as far as we, here, can reasonably know.

I'd be keen for anyone interested in anything in this collection to speak to the family if the family are interested in speaking. Third parties, even well meaning ones, just make it harder and harder for everyone - including those who have property in this collection.

Otherwise, there will be lawyers.... and nobody will likely enjoy it after that.

 

[a2fan]

I was there... we WERE trying help sort everything. A whole week, six people and we only got one room done.

 

[TristinAEvans]

I was there... we WERE trying help sort everything. A whole week, six people and we only got one room done.

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Check you messages. =)

 

[ppuskari]

The Apple IIgs machines likely have some rare boards in them. The BOXED (!) Applied Visions FutureSound GS card is extremely rare. I have the card, but getting the docs and software archived would be great.

Apple II software mirrors

A collection of past and current Apple II FTP sites. ftp.apple.asimov.net is synced daily.

mirrors.apple2.org.za

I can help with the manual and the software from my FutureSound GS board. Sadly I think I will also never see my board back. It's currently in Australia with George Bodie for cloning and well that's been 3 years? now with near zero communication. But yeah, the manual and software I can help with. There's also a version up on whatistheappleiigs site too. His version is newer than mine I recall though.

 

[Daniel G]

Oh this is distressing.
Tony was a good mate, So .
I have at abt$1500usd of items(car parts,computer parts and books,bibles)
that tony was getting around to dropshipping for me(and by mates)
Then i got the news of his passing.
This whole thing is distressing.

ontop of all that the man who was nominated by the family , that the list was given to has decided to simply not approach the family at all.
My dropshipped items are still there.
and This Man has not got any help out of the family.
Im not the only Aussie in this storm.
Im a pensioner and cant afford to replace the larger items that may have been pilfered already.Let alone my own.
If anyone has contact details of tony's brother/family or can speak up for me please pm me or ring me.
Sean, if youre able to help....
Ta.

 

[Daniel G]

Oh this is distressing.
Tony was a good mate, So .
I have at abt$1500usd of items(car parts,computer parts and books,bibles)
that tony was getting around to dropshipping for me(and by mates)
Then i got the news of his passing.
This whole thing is distressing.

ontop of all that the man who was nominated by the family , that the list was given to has decided to simply not approach the family at all.
My dropshipped items are still there.
and This Man has not got any help out of the family.
Im not the only Aussie in this storm.
Im a pensioner and cant afford to replace the larger items that may have been pilfered already.Let alone my own.
If anyone has contact details of tony's brother/family or can speak up for me please pm me or ring me.
Sean, Tristan if youre able to help....
Ta.

 

[digitalrampage]

I was there... we WERE trying help sort everything. A whole week, six people and we only got one room done.

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Hey mate.
I had been to Tony’s a few times and know where a couple of items are that he had aside for me/ whether they’re still there or not. Also there was a big ticket item Tony was helping me out with, which can be verified with his bank accountS.
Reach out if you can

 

[TristinAEvans]

I’m trying to get in touch with people who know the family. Whether or not they help me get there remains to be seen.