Lisa?

[mactjaap]

Today I acquired a Lisa 2. Well....not really one you can plugin and startup.

It is more a former Lisa. A deciced Lisa....Just everything what could be removed is out. So not much as the monitor is left. I have some questions.

- How realistic is it to get this one back alive. What am I missing. Obvious the CPU board, video board, power suply, floppy drive....Am I missing more?

- Can you tell from the information on the serial number when it is produced? I see Manufactured 3244. Does that mean 1983, 24 week, 4th day?

- What is the information about the model (Model number A6S0300P Memory Option A6S0304 )

- If not possible to restore.is it possible to connect the monitor to any kind of more modern Mac? Like a Plus or a Macintosh II?

Some pictures and the serial sticker.

Serial sticker...

Model number A6S0300P Memory Option A6S0304

 

[applefreak]

Am I missing more?

- main board

- ram board

- I/O board

- lisa lite card

- lisa soft switch ?

- mouse

- keyboard

(video Youtube)

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[Trash80toHP_Mini]

WOW! 8-o I'm feeling more than a bit jealous all of a sudden! :I Nice one! :approve:

 

[Scott Baret]

I believe the CRT and case are all that remain in this machine aside from a few stray cables. You do need every part you and Applefreak mentioned.

I'm not sure if you'd be into anything of the sort, but this would be an awesome system to customize or modify. I haven't been inside a Lisa in ten years so I'm a bit rusty on the schematics of the internals, but I'd love to see what could be accomplished with this case. Personally, I'd love to see SE/30 internals inside a Lisa, or maybe even a Mac Mini mod similar to what some have done with the Classics.

 

[Concorde1993]

No signatures engraved on the Lisa's case? I'm surprised.

 

[Byrd]

Personally, I'd love to see SE/30 internals inside a Lisa

That's a sweet idea, using the SE/30's B&W monitor - and you could probably fit more than a couple PDS cards in there without resorting to that uber-expensive right-angle bracket from Japan.

 

[Bunsen]

this would be an awesome system to customize or modify.

+1,000000000

using the SE/30's B&W monitor

Wrong size - the Lisa CRT is 12".

My vote would be for a 12"-14" high-resolution LCD (or a good colour multi-scan CRT) and modern guts, running a Lisa emulator. CD/DVD drive in the floppy slot, of course

/edit/ - just noticed the floppy is 3.5", not 5.25". Much better would be a slot-loading optical drive behind one of the ventilation slots at the right. Looking at the back, it looks as though you might be able to have 3 PCI slots without too much horror, too. For a real challenge, install new hardware without altering the Lisa case in any way, so it is still in original condition, should you decide to fully restore it or sell it later.

Or - retr0brite it and sell it on eBay to someone wanting a nice clean case for theirs.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

The LISA had a 12" CRT & more pixels, that's why I came close to buying one from Sun Remarketing back in 1998-89.

It looks like the machine has been parted out, so the CRT was probably dead or it'd very likely be gone too. If so, cutting the face off for a Mini transplant would be my second choice. First would be a mini-ATX or even the Micro-ATX Dual Core Atom board that's be "Hackintoshed" and running ubuntu in a dual boot setup as a NetTop.

Does the color match the 128k-early Mac Plus beige? Matching KBD & Mouse would be essential!

p.s. beat me to it,B!

 

[Bunsen]

cutting the face off

:O

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

The face off the CRT IF it's already DEAD!

 

[applefreak]

I'd love to see SE/30 internals inside a Lisa

first try to get all the parts ......

the main board is available from time to time on ebay

replacement for the 'winchester' HD X/ProFile

or SCSI board with HD (system macworks)

Lisa components

subscribe to old mac forums to find the missing parts

 

[Bunsen]

The face off the CRT IF it's already DEAD!

Oh, for a realistic-looking LCD mod. Right. Personally, I'm not sure I'd bother: the front of the Lisa looks fairly flat and square already, and a flatscreen wouldn't look out of place, IMHO.

- How realistic is it to get this one back alive.

Realistic, hmmm, well that depends on two things - money, and time. Lisas and Lisa parts are rare - and when available and working, expensive. If you wanted to collect broken Lisas for a while, you might end up with enough parts for a working one - in a few years

is it possible to connect the monitor to any kind of more modern Mac? Like a Plus or a Macintosh II?

Not really, no.

 

[Bunsen]

It looks like the machine has been parted out, so the CRT was probably dead or it'd very likely be gone too.

Not necessarily, it might have just been too heavy to ship.

I'll modify my comment about the monitor above - if the Lisa CRT uses standard composite video for input (which I don't know) then you could run it off a composite (PAL/NTSC TV) output. I doubt that it does, but someone else here might know better.

 

[applefreak]

source : Lisa 2 owners guide

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[mactjaap]

Thanks for all your help! 68kmla realy is great on help with my Lisa!

two questions remain:

- Can you tell from the information on the serial number when it is produced? I see Manufactured 3244. Does that mean 1983, 24 week, 4th day?

- What is the information about the model (Model number A6S0300P Memory Option A6S0304 )

Could someone help me with this?

 

[Bunsen]

http://lisafaq.sunder.net/

 

[mactjaap]

The information about a model number (A6S0300) and Memory Option A6S0304 are not in the FAQ. Nor is there any infomation about the Manufactured code on the sticker....

Sometimes I see this model number als Macintosh XL and sometimes as Lisa 2 1/5....

I guess the key is the exact date when it is made.

Help is still welcome!

 

[applefreak]

A6S0100

Lisa 1

A6S0200

Lisa 2, Lisa 2/5, Lisa 2/10

A6S0300

Lisa XL

when you see at ebay an auction of a Lisa 2 and it indicates A6S0300, its mean that he had to change the case (or parts of it)

because ....,

because of missing the original part or the original part wasn't in a good shape, or ....

so the winner of the auction doesn't have an original Lisa 2

The lisa story

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[Bunsen]

not in the FAQ

No, but there is a list of links to other Lisa websites. That was just the first page I pulled up in Google (hint)