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Lisa 2/10 black screen

pgreffet

Member
Hi all
I powered on my Lisa this weekend and all I have is a black screen. The power lights on, the widget is making a loud noise and there are three bios when no keyboard is plugged in.
The PSU is ref. 699-0190 which is an 1.8 amp configured for european countries.
I have already removed the two big RIFAs inside the PSU but still black screen.
What should I test now ?
 

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bibilit

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Ptobably not a PSU issue.

Your issue is more on the second board (the one on the picture 0543) or a bad solder joint.
 

stepleton

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Is there any sign of life from the display at all ever --- do you see any flickers during power-up or power-down?
 

stepleton

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Display circuitry is not my specialty; my next move might be to review The Dead Mac Scrolls and extrapolate the syndromes it describes to the Lisa's video apparatus for more inspiratio. Do you see signs of a glowing heater filament in the tube? It's not always visible but you may be able to spot a glow towards the end of the CRT neck. And it nearly goes without saying, but mind the high voltages inside the video system
 

pgreffet

Member
Display circuitry is not my specialty; my next move might be to review The Dead Mac Scrolls and extrapolate the syndromes it describes to the Lisa's video apparatus for more inspiratio. Do you see signs of a glowing heater filament in the tube? It's not always visible but you may be able to spot a glow towards the end of the CRT neck. And it nearly goes without saying, but mind the high voltages inside the video system
I will power it on without the upper bezel and see if it glows in the dark.
 

pgreffet

Member
The CRT is powered but no picture on it.
I suspect the video ROM to be the culprit. It is written 341-0230-A on it instead of 341-0229.
 

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GRudolf94

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What is that suspicion based on?

Back to basic steps: do you have HV? (Can you feel the screen pull the hairs on your arm?)
 

pgreffet

Member
What is that suspicion based on?

Back to basic steps: do you have HV? (Can you feel the screen pull the hairs on your arm?)
I think I have HV because of the back of the glowing filament near the CRT neck. I can’t feel the screen pull the hairs on my arm as you say.
 

GRudolf94

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The filament is separate from the HV. Sure, both are generated by the flyback, but one can fail with the other working. See if a piece of paper will stick to the screen when you turn the machine off/on.
 

pgreffet

Member
The filament is separate from the HV. Sure, both are generated by the flyback, but one can fail with the other working. See if a piece of paper will stick to the screen when you turn the machine off/on.
Hi
A piece of paper can’t stick to the CRT screen when Lisa is turned on.
 
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