iPhone/iPod touch in the Newton Forum

[MultiFinder]

Do you think that the iPod touch can/should be discussed in this forum? I think we all realize a few things:

1. The iPhone and iPod touch are NOT Newtons.

2. The Newton will never again rise from Cupertino, as amazing as they are.

3. The iPhone and iPod touch are modern-day devices from Apple that do many of the same sorts of things that the Newton did, and is the closest thing that they've done to a PDA since the venerable Newton.

I'm not saying that they're descended from the Newton, nor that they are in the same league. However, if they need be discussed (several MLAers seem to be getting them), may they be discussed here?

 

[LCGuy]

I vote no...they're not Newtons, nor are they based on the Newton platform, as much as they may be related.

 

[John8520]

Nope they're not newtons, so they shouldn't be discussed here. That'd be like talking about a 486 in the 68k forums. (more or less)

 

[Quadraman]

Maybe there needs to be a forum for Apple devices that aren't computers or PDA's.

 

[gobabushka]

my vote is also no

 

[MacMan]

I would say that iPhones should be Lounge material, since they are not Newtons nor are they 68k Mac related. Although I'm not too bothered.

 

[~tl]

Maybe there needs to be a forum for Apple devices that aren't computers or PDA's.

That's what the Lounge is for...

 

[SiliconValleyPirate]

They are not sold under the Newton brand

They don't run the Newton OS

They don't have a stylus

They aren't sold as PDAs

They don't have an *official* SDK (even though they should have)

They don't have any removable storage (SIM cards don't count, before you ask)

They don't have a removable battery

They don't have a serial port

They don't glow green in the dark

They don't weigh as much as a small brick

How much not like a Newton can you get? The HTC Touch has more in common with the Newton than the iPhone/iTouch...

 

[equant]

They are not sold under the Newton brandThey don't run the Newton OS

They don't have a stylus

They aren't sold as PDAs

They don't have an *official* SDK (even though they should have)

They don't have any removable storage (SIM cards don't count, before you ask)

They don't have a removable battery

They don't have a serial port

They don't glow green in the dark

They don't weigh as much as a small brick

Hold your horses, we can't really know how similar they are to the Newton yet.

Will Apple foster a third-party industry and user base around the platform and then suddenly abandon it to satisfy one of Job's many neurosis??

Nathan

 

[beachycove]

Hold your horses, we can't really know how similar they are to the Newton yet.
Will Apple foster a third-party industry and user base around the platform and then suddenly abandon it to satisfy one of Job's many neurosis??

A fine statement of the issue and (as a longtime Newt fancier, waaaay back from when they were bleeding-edge technology and cost great vats of cash) a pleasure for me to read.

 

[register]

I vote "possibly", because they do have an official SDK (a great one, if only half of the demos in the keynote will work on anybodies recent mac).

If someone skilled produces a Newton emulator or at least some kind of Newton skin for the iPhone, it might become the best Newton ever (will even glow green in the dark). With an appropriate stylus and programme even the typical handwritten input should work. How sounds that ?

 

[zerohour]

If someone skilled produces a Newton emulator or at least some kind of Newton skin for the iPhone, it might become the best Newton ever (will even glow green in the dark). With an appropriate stylus and programme even the typical handwritten input should work. How sounds that ?

Could try asking the Open Einstein project who knows you may get your wish

http://www.kallisys.com/newton/einstein/

 

[Pillar 13]

I vote nope.

If ever a real need arises, maybe a separate forum area for Ipods /

Iphones. Until then, The Lounge isn't all that full.

 

[funkytoad]

I say No... They remain separate in my mind.

 

[Temetka]

Yes.

It's the closest thing Apple is ever going to have to a Newton.

Get used to it.

I love my iTouch and and doing everything I can to turn it into a full fledged PDA. It is better than the Newton IMO and to be honest I think it is a worthy successor.

 

[~tl]

A worthy successor? Maybe...

However, in the same vein, is the Mac Pro any less of a worthy successor to the Quadra 950? Does that make it OK to discuss the Mac Pro in the Quadra forum here? Um... no... of course not!

 

[MultiFinder]

Holy necroposts Batman, I thought this was settled a good while ago with the pleasant trumping that everything besides "NO" got

BTW, I'm in the 'no' category too. I was just rather curious what others thought.

 

[~tl]

Holy necroposts Batman, I thought this was settled a good while ago with the pleasant trumping that everything besides "NO" got
BTW, I'm in the 'no' category too. I was just rather curious what others thought.

That's the problem with quiet forums like this one... topics stay on the front page for a LONG time. For example, the topic at the bottom of the front page of this forum was last updated nearly a year ago! Since people rarely check the dates before they post... well... this happens [)] ]'>

 

[Temetka]

Dang.

I'm usually better at checking the dates.

Now I have to go find that Zombie killing gun I put somewhere....