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Getting files off Mac Classic HD

DanCooper

New member
I have a 1991 Mac Classic, the screen on which died a decade or so ago, but which otherwise seems to boot up. I'm hoping to get files (e.g. e-mails, letters, college papers) off the hard drive and into a format that can be read by a newfangled computer. So far, no luck in finding someone with the right hardware to do this. The drive has what I am told is a scsi1 connection - two rows of 25 pins each. It was suggested on a different board that a PCI PowerMac uses the same SCSI bus, and that this might be a good forum to find someone who has one or could point me in the right direction. Any suggestions would be appreciated, particularly if they are within striking distance of the Cascadia (Oregon-BC) region.

Cheers!

 

Scott Baret

Well-known member
Your best bet is going to be an older Mac than a Power Mac. The easiest solution would be to find another Classic, or to find an LC or LCII, as both could run System 6.0.7 or 6.0.8 (very commonly used/shipped with the original Classic). Other good choices are the Mac II series or the Mac SE (with a high density drive, sometimes referred to as a SuperDrive or FDHD drive). I wouldn't recommend using a Quadra, Centris, Power Mac, Classic II, Performa, or LCIII/higher numbered LC. PowerBooks use smaller drives and would be unable to accommodate the drive from the Classic, most Macs made from late 1994 onward use IDE, and the Plus and earlier can't accommodate internal hard drives. Stay away from original IIs and SEs without SuperDrives, since they can't use the 1.4MB disks you'd need to transfer the files to a USB floppy-equipped Mac. Don't forget to find a compatible monitor if you're using a Mac without an internal display.

The easiest way to do this, which is why you'd want an older Mac that can run System 6 (newer ones require System 7), is to transplant your hard drive into the case of the Mac you've chosen for the transplant.

Another good choice is to use an external hard drive enclosure with a SCSI connection, although these aren't all that common these days. You'll find plenty of Classics, SEs, and LCs out there (other models are a little less common; these seem to show up all the time since they were used extensively in schools).

Assuming you wish to transplant your drive into another Mac (the easiest way since most Macs, II series excepted, typically only accommodate one drive), you'll need to remove it from your Classic, remove any existing drive from the new Mac, and place the drive in the new Mac. You can then use a floppy (stick with a 1.4MB to ensure compatibility with USB drives).

The trickiest part is going to be removing the drive. You'll need a long-shafted Torx T15 driver. There are two screws in the Mac's handle and two near the ports. Remove these screws and gently pull the two parts of the case apart. After you open your Mac, you'll see the hard drive sitting on top of the floppy drive. There are two Phillips head screws holding the hard drive bracket on the floppy drive bracket. Remove these, disconnect the power and drive connectors from the back of the drive, and gently slide the drive bracket out. You may need to loosen a cable from the right side of this bracket.

Next, you'll need to prepare your new Mac for the drive. SEs open identically to Classics and have their hard drives mounted the same way. LCs are easy--the case snaps off (some put a screw in to deter this, but there's only one you'd need to remove on the back above the ports if it did exist). Remove the old drive, connect the new drive, and you're in business.

The only problem you may encounter is if you are using a machine other than another Classic and you once installed a system specifically for use on a Classic on your hard drive. In that case, your computer will state that it cannot boot. There's a very easy fix to this--either install a system from your original system disks or use Apple's disks (available on their website under the Apple Archive section of old software) if you lost yours. Install it for "any Mac" or for the model of Mac you've got.

If you need a Mac, please feel free to post in our trading post section and hopefully someone will be able to help you find one.

 

waynestewart

Well-known member
The easiest way to get your files to a newer machine would be to install your drive in an external case and connect it to something like a G3 with SCSI and either burn it to a CD or put the files on a flash drive.

The next problem might be whether your new machine could read the files. There's a fair chance your currant software will be able to read the old format. If not then getting someone to translate them for you isn't a major deal.

 

Bunsen

Admin-Witchfinder-General
The next problem might be whether your new machine could read the files.
Which is where finding a similar era Mac that can boot from the original HD might be a good idea - and, to save disassembly hassles, an external SCSI case.

 

waynestewart

Well-known member
Thinking a bit more, I'd now suggest that you contact a local Mac User Group to put you in touch with someone nearby who has the necessary hardware and expertize to access your hard drive and move your data forward. Doing it yourself would involve collecting hardware that you otherwise likely wouldn't have much use for plus likely a certain amount of trial & error. A knowledgeable person with the right equipment could likely take care of you in an hour or two. There's a list of MUGs at http://www.wap.org/external/wapusergrouplist.html

 

PowerPup

Well-known member
I would be willing to help out. I'm in Washington, and I have all the needed hardware and knowledge to accomplish such a task. :D

PM me and we can discuss the details. ;)

 

DanCooper

New member
Big thanks to PowerPup for fixing this all up for me! The hard drive lives again in a new Mac, and what files could be recovered, have been.

 
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