retrobecanes
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Does anyone have a capacitor list for the SE/30 analog board?
This is super useful, thanks! I'm sure I'll be having to do this myself soon...Those are for the power supplies. For the analog board, I just finished a recap. Here's the parts I used from digikey.
Please note, C15 (3.9uF 35V bipolar) is no longer available. There are some on eBay, but I don't really trust capacitors from eBay. So, I used a high frequency switching film capacitor, which should work well other than the different shape.
Looks good, except perhaps for the 2 axial caps. Those are the only 2 in your list of replacement Nichicons that have a 2000h@85°C rating. All the radial caps have a 105°C rating, and rated at many more hours too. Vishay is more expensive but is perhaps a better alternative for the axials. Compare specs:For the analog board, I just finished a recap. Here's the parts I used from digikey.
When choosing fluid-filled electrolytic capacitors, it's not a matter of our vintage Macs running constantly at a toasty 85°C. It's all about how to chose a replacement cap so it will have a long life....if your analog board is reaching 85C where the axials are located, you’ve got bigger problems than capacitors.
Below is a list of film caps at Mouser, which include the Panasonic cap you selected, all PP and rated at the same 3.9uF capacitance, 5% tolerance, and 105°C rating. Lead spacing varies by part and I haven't opened my SE/30 to see what the lead spacing should be, but perhaps you would know?I’m unfamiliar with Mouser’s product catalog. I wonder if they have a better C15 replacement. The film capacitor I used has the wrong lead spacing, so the legs need creative bending.
Even though that data is taken from manufacturer testing, the manufacturer has a way to compute longevity from that data, as I described in my previous post. It's just that I cannot find anything online that tells us precisely how Nichicon and Vishay compute longevity for the caps we are talking about. But manufacturers of other electrolytic capacitors do post such information in datasheets, and in many cases it is a "10x multiplier of hours" for every 20°C drop in operating temperature, which is why I use that as a good rule of thumb.When researching this, I read that these ratings are not lifespans, rather abuse tests... I'm also curious if the computed longevity compares continuous use vs. idle time...
Lead spacing for C15 is 8mm.
Below is a list of film caps at Mouser, which include the Panasonic cap you selected, all PP and rated at the same 3.9uF capacitance, 5% tolerance, and 105°C rating. Lead spacing varies by part and I haven't opened my SE/30 to see what the lead spacing should be, but perhaps you would know?
I was replying to the lead spacing for C15 and just noticed Joe already replied. Pretend this message doesn't exist.
I own a copy of "Mac Classic & SE Repair and Upgrade Secrets" by Larry Pina. Chapter 2 is "SE Analog Board Repairs" and says the following:Hi, does the SE/30 has the exact same analog board as de original SE? if not, is there a complete list of capacitors for the SE analog board that I missed?
thanks
Thank you for the reference. I got right on it.Those are for the power supplies. For the analog board, I just finished a recap. Here's the parts I used from digikey.
Please note, C15 (3.9uF 35V bipolar) is no longer available. There are some on eBay, but I don't really trust capacitors from eBay. So, I used a high frequency switching film capacitor, which should work well other than the different shape.