Apple Lisa 2 or Mac XL...Kind Of.

[westcoastech]

was wondering same thing. what about floppy drive too...

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Woah, what's with that Plus? Transparent case mod?

Nuts! I was quickly looking for the best pic I had of the BenchMacXL™ and the next iteration of the ZipMacPLUS™ is sitting in the pic. No biggie, but pick it up in that thread if you like and I'll field questions there so we don't hijack this thread. Responding to your tangent was one thing, but going into details about the other would be a bit much . . .

. . . and I STILL want to get my grubby little paws on a Lisa KBD shell! ;D

 

[lameboyadvance]

Great find Compgeke!

...I wonder how much lighter that Lisa 2 is compared to one not missing all the internals.

 

[MinerAl]

I seem to remember someone saying the pins on the Lisa's CRT match those on the compact Macs.  So theoretically you could take all the innards of a compact Mac, wedge them in there, and connect them to the Lisa's CRT.  What you have there is an excellent candidate for a 12" Mac Plus/SE/SE30.  It would be everything the Mac XL was and at least 3 MHz faster!

If I wasn't currently destitute, I'd offer you some cash, and do just that.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

If you can do that, why not just replace the CRT with a 12" Monochrome Display? You'd have 640x480 Grayscale and the ability to use a much better MoBo!

Dunno about clearance for the neck of the 12" RGB, but it works fine behind the bezel of my BenchMacXL™ which is probably less deep than a real Lisa case.

 

[Compgeke]

I dug in tonight and took more pictures.

It's looking more and more like either a 2/XL or converted Lisa 1 based on date codes. 

Here's the CRT's driver board, and part number. 620-0121 matches up with what a 2\XL\Conversion would have.

1723 written on the top right of the board for some reason.

Here's the CRT, with Week 32, 1981

The next is a capacitor date code of Week 32, 1981 (again)

Here's a transistor with a date code of Week 39, 1982

Capacitor with a date code of Week 21, 1982

Here's another with Week 54, 1982 (I believe - Matsushita's numbering was a tad odd).

There's also more PTA Prototype on the other plastic pieces.

 

[unity]

Agreed, those date codes are more Lisa 1 timeline than Lisa 2/XL - Unless the managed to build way more than needed the first year, which I heard may have happened. That many Lisa 1 were converted by Apple to a 2.

 

[Bunsen]

12" Mac Plus/SE/SE30.  It would be everything the Mac XL was and at least 3 MHz faster!

Dear god this is a good idea.  Correction though, that should read "at least three times as fast".  68030 @ 16MHz is waaaaay faster than an 8MHz 68000.  And with a Daystar dropped in faster yet again.

Or go all the way to native 040 and stick a Quadra board in there.

replace the CRT with a 12" Monochrome Display? You'd have 640x480 Grayscale and the ability to use a much better MoBo!

Yesssssss *makes grabby hands*

 

[Macdrone]

The getting the Lisa case is still too hard for most of us.

 

[MinerAl]

I was basing "at least 3MHz" on a Plus being 8MHz and a Lisa/XL being 5MHz. At most, you could stick any 13" 4:3 monitor and a brand new Mac mini in there.

 

[onlyonemac]

It looks like this isn't the first one of these...

http://macintosh.vanegten.com/?p=190

 

[unity]

^ How so? The one posted here has the very odd label - does not say Apple Computer on is. The one you posted looks like any other gutted Lisa. Am I missing something?

 

[mogorman]

if you ever want to sell it I would love to buy it off of you  ^_^

 

[lameboyadvance]

You and everyone else.

 

[mogorman]

lol darn i thought i was the only one