A/UX Install Issues

[JoeCanada]

Hi All!

Been around awhile watching, but not much to post until now!

I'm attempting and A/UX install on my IIsi from an AppleCD 300, but for some reason, no matter what I do, I keep getting jammed up on the part where it detects the CD and says 'A/UX Installation, Launching...' and NOTHING happens after that. It simply seems to lock up.

I've spent hours on the Google-machine and right here at 68kmla, but nothing seems to indicate what my problem might be. Any suggestions or previous experiences?? |)

 

[beachycove]

I could not get it on my IIsi, either. It was a long time ago, but I do remember that the installation stalled somewhere.

 

[uniserver]

do you have a FPU installed in your IIsi?

 

[JoeCanada]

do you have a FPU installed in your IIsi?

Yes, I do.

 

[ChristTrekker]

How much RAM do you have? Do you have a different CD drive you could try?

 

[tlc630]

I have installed A/UX on a IIsi with a Apple300 CD successfully. I don't have time to pull out the IIsi right now to verify this I believe you must be booted off the install floppy. Booting off the HD and then clicking on the installer will result in errors/hangs, IIRC.

 

[tlc630]

Forgot to mention the obvious. You've double checked the SCSI ids and termination of the HD and CD, right?

 

[beachycove]

Which version of a/ux?

 

[JoeCanada]

Thanks for all the responses! Now my answers...

How much RAM do you have? Do you have a different CD drive you could try?

Fully loaded... 65MB. I tried a different (non-Apple) drive with the same result.

I have installed A/UX on a IIsi with a Apple300 CD successfully. I don't have time to pull out the IIsi right now to verify this I believe you must be booted off the install floppy. Booting off the HD and then clicking on the installer will result in errors/hangs, IIRC.

Yeah, I'm booting off two different install floppies that I got from aux-penelope.com, the Mac II image, and the Custom Image... same thing.

Forgot to mention the obvious. You've double checked the SCSI ids and termination of the HD and CD, right?

I'm pretty sure I've got them right, CD drive is set to 5, with terminator on it and the CD comes up in regular old System 7, so I assume it burned correctly too. At least, the Mac partition did.

Which version of a/ux?

3.0.1 - from a backup disc...

 

[JoeCanada]

Perhaps a little more to go on? Here's a video of what goes on pretty much EVERY TIME:

http://youtu.be/OUiBiekSsZk

Once it hits the 'Launching...' part towards the end is where it stops and pretty much does nothing. I don't think you should have to wait for hours on end for it to launch...unless I'm mistaken?

 

[uniserver]

i have a suggestion pull the NIC then install then put the nic back in.

 

[JoeCanada]

i have a suggestion pull the NIC then install then put the nic back in.

Good suggestion...gave that a try...same result.

Interestingly enough, this problem sounds identical to mine: http://68kmla.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=3836

Seems like the problem in that case was a SCSI bus issue, but I'm almost certain there's nothing wrong with my setup...it's pretty hard to screw up connecting a CD drive and a terminator. And there is no problem detecting and reading the CD drive in regular System 7.

ie. My Setup: IIsi <--> AppleCD 300 (ID: 5) <--> Active Terminator

(I've changed the ID to 4 and 6 occasionally, no difference)

The odd time, it would come up with a read error of some kind, and drop me into what looks like a shell. But that only happens occasionally. I'll try to grab a pic if it happens again.

 

[tt]

Perhaps the CD/floppy images are corrupt. Try verifying somehow that the install media are good, MD5, make new disks, etc.

 

[JoeCanada]

Don't know how I could verify them without an MD5 code...in any case, I've downloaded a couple different install images and burned them to multiple discs...same thing. :-/

 

[tlc630]

I would say try another boot floppy image like the one that penelope points to 'cilinder.be' I couldn't get anything out of the penelope software downloads.

Various stuffit expanders wouldn't touch them and BinHex reported CRC errors.

BTW, I fired up my IIsi and proceeded with an installation just fine. IIsi w/ 17MB, 500MB HD (SCSI 0), Apple CD (SCSI 3), external SCSI terminator, nubus adapter w/ FPU and an Asante NIC card. I forget where I got the installation media but it was a long time ago so maybe the jagubox or freiberg archives, but, in any case, before penelope.

 

[JoeCanada]

I'll try that...does your installation resemble my video up until the point that it stops? (ie. Does your progress bar on the loading screen jump backwards a bit...I don't know if that's normal behavior or not)

 

[JoeCanada]

OK, got something different...I tried 4 different boot floppy images, and as many different burned ISOs...no different. So I just booted with a plain boot floppy with CD ROM extension and ran the A/UX installer manually. I managed to get a shell window up of sorts with this message:

Autorecovery

/dev/default : NO WRITE ACCESS

/dev/default : UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

Autorecovery failed.

chroot

-settz

chdir

startup #

Then I tried this:

startup # launch -v -a

And got this:

newunix

pstart(31136)+.text(611322)+.data(74476)+MODULES<0>+.bss[287608]

 

This is the point of no return for launching an A/UX kernel.

If this stays on the screen for more than a minute, then the kernel is having trouble booting.

...and sure enough, it stopped doing anything at that point. I suppose the kernel is having trouble for some reason? But why would that be?

 

[tlc630]

Yes, the progress bar does a little hiccup about 8 seconds into the 'Loading...' step before it changes to the 'Launching...' step.

Try this: Boot from your install diskette and as soon the A/UX installation screen present a 'Cancel' button, hit it. The go up to the Preferences/Booting options and add a -v to the boot command, so the box reads, 'Command: boot_cd -d -v'. Then continue with the boot process by hitting Cmd-B. You should get the 'Loading...' step, the a 'Launching...' step, a fair amount of floppy activity, then a unix terminal screen that says 'Welcome to A/UX' with several lines about the current environment including memory, scsi devices. If you get this far there might be some indication of why the booting doesn't proceed. If you don't get this far, well...I don't know what to say.

 

[ChristTrekker]

What's the "-v" option? I don't think I've heard of that one.