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I would prefer to not see any AI in our hobby spaces. Kinda defeats the purpose of the hobby.
Then go start a thread about hand optimising 68k assembly ;) this, and others like it, clearly isn't the thread for you.

P.S. it isn't for you to tell people how to do  their hobby.
 
its our hobby, collectively. so yes I do have some say in how we all go about it.

I want to see people create art and code, not steal it.
 
lol I’m messing with you guys, aserker is my alt

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That's not how hobbies work kiddo.

Generally you’re allowed to criticize parts of hobbies you disagree with. You consider my side uncouth do you not?
 
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Generally you’re allowed to criticize parts of hobbies you consider substandard. You consider my side uncouth do you not?
Not at all, I just think you shouldn't make fun of people on a technical forum. There are oh so many other places for that.
 
I would prefer to not see any AI in our hobby spaces. Kinda defeats the purpose of the hobby.
You can easily avoid seeing it. Scroll on by. Go do your own thing.

There is a meme that could go on here but the tone isn't really appropriate for this forum.

its our hobby, collectively. so yes I do have some say in how we all go about it.
Is it really? Or are you just coopting someone else's hobby and telling them how to go about it?
 
You can easily avoid seeing it. Scroll on by. Go do your own thing.

There is a meme that could go on here but the tone isn't really appropriate for this forum.


Is it really? Or are you just coopting someone else's hobby and telling them how to go about it?

I've been using Apple computers since the //e. So no.

I think when someone chooses to use AI art for retro stuff its a lost commission for a talented artist, likewise an individual choosing AI for a retro code project is a lost opportunity for collaboration, making new friends, and so on.
 
Okay great thanks but AI is not for writing software. It is not
and this is for you to decide for all of humanity? I assure you, that's not the direction software development is moving right now.
I would prefer to not see any AI in our hobby spaces. Kinda defeats the purpose of the hobby.
literally just openly gatekeeping at this point
Then go start a thread about hand optimising 68k assembly ;) this, and others like it, clearly isn't the thread for you.

P.S. it isn't for you to tell people how to do  their hobby.
right?! no one forced them to participate in this thread, but they have already predetermined how I'm supposed to participate.
its our hobby, collectively. so yes I do have some say in how we all go about it.

I want to see people create art and code, not steal it.
This is ridiculous, as someone whose been an open source advocate for many many years, long before the AI craze, it's like you don't understand what the point of open source software development is, how open source licenses work, none the less how this applies to AI. The code is BSD licensed and based upon other BSD licensed code. What does that license have to say about this? There's a certain level of comprehension just....completely being missed here, in favor of some surface-level AI politicing that doesn't even add up to the situation in question.

AI often makes you focused more on outcomes than process, and quite frankly, a lot of that imaginary clout goes straight out the window along with it.

I've been using Apple computers since the //e. So no.

I think when someone chooses to use AI art for retro stuff its a lost commission for a talented artist, likewise an individual choosing AI for a retro code project is a lost opportunity for collaboration, making new friends, and so on.
Truly ironic, because you're not exactly acting friendly or collaborative. This seems like projection at best.
 
I've been highly skeptical of AI (and generally remain so), but the recent model versions (like in the last 3-6 months) have been a significant improvement. The Apple II guys recently got Claude to convert the Orca/C compiler for the Apple IIgs from Pascal to ANSI C. (Yes, the official C compiler for the IIgs was written in Pascal). The result kept the original variable and function names, builds on any modern Mac/PC/Linux machine, and passes all 500+ regression tests. And of course it compiles real programs far, far faster than the original on even a highly accelerated IIgs. So yes, it can do surprisingly cool things, even in relatively esoteric vintage computing applications.
 
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