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You can never have too many storage options...

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Can you?

I've got a SCSI2SD board in both my LC III and Mac Bottom SCSI external HD (which came with my SE/30 and had a dead HD).  The PDS slot is taken up by a IIe card, so I had to go with the AsantePrint 8 to get it on my network.  I was pleasantly surprised that I could connect to the vtools server through the internet!

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 I was pleasantly surprised that I could connect to the vtools server through the internet!
At first I was like "I'm glad I'm not the only one who calls my software share "sw"" until I read this.

Very nice!

Very nicely done. There's your answer to busting the 2 GB limit on these systems!
7.5.5 and 7.6 should be able to do 4-gig partitions on an LC III. Most '040s minus PowerBooks and the 630/580 should be able to do up to 2TB volumes over SCSI.

How about adding a zip 100 and a Syquest 44 to the mix, he he.  
Bernoulli!

 
Very cool! I will +1 for the Syquest; that’s my favorite (most reliable) removable storage I have found for Macs so far. I do like Zip too, but as we all know, they can be iffy. I remember a couple of years ago, I had two Zip drives fail in two different PCs in the same week. I’ve had better luck with the external units so far. 

I’d like to have a Bernoulli drive for my IBM PCs and XTs. They are pretty hard to find unfortunately.

 
Not to mention expensive, even when plentiful. I recall looking up disks during their EOL period, still being sold in catalogs, seeing a low three-figure sum for a 44MB cart and thinking "okay, zip disks it is…"

 
How about adding a zip 100 and a Syquest 44 to the mix, he he.  
I had a zip 100 back in the day, but it always hacked me off that those disks were so expensive.  The zip drives were available for how many years and those damn disks never seemed to come down in price, I imagine because no one else besides Iomega was allowed to produce the disks.

 
And realistically in this day and age, 100MB is very small, even for hobby-ing.  .  I am going to set up a system with a Syquest 44MB drive just because that is what I had back in the day, for nostalgic reasons.  I had an un-accelerated SE/30 with an external video card and a Syquest drive with like 5 cartridges.

 
Not to mention expensive, even when plentiful. I recall looking up disks during their EOL period, still being sold in catalogs, seeing a low three-figure sum for a 44MB cart and thinking "okay, zip disks it is…"
3.5" Magneto Optical was the way to go.  They were about the same speed as ZIP, but in that time frame, held 640 MB per cartridge and the cartridges cost  about the same as Zips.    The difference was that the MO drives were still about $250 when the Zip drives were closer to $100.

 
I never bothered with MO carts when they were new, too expensive for the drives, but love them now. Removable media in general is fun to collect and use.

 
those damn disks never seemed to come down in price, I imagine because no one else besides Iomega was allowed to produce the disks.
Iomega was intentionally selling the Zip drives at or below cost, and was selling the disks for a relatively healthy margin.

The intent was to, essentially, simulate the razor blade/ink printer markets. Theory theory was that with the drives and disks priced just so, they'd be able to generate near infinite demand.

In reality, the costs for the disks were high enough that the storage market for '90s data-hoarders didn't really materialize the way Iomega thought it did.

The other thing is Iomega spent a lot of money getting Zip into as many retailers and pre-built systems as possible. It was a successful plan to build something that defacto ended up succeeding floppies until USB flash disks became possible/reasonable in 2003, but.

As far as disk production, Fuji and I believe possibly Imation (I'd have to check) produced their own. Fuji was building the internal magnetic media, so Iomega licensed the rest of the cartridge design back to them.

This is moderately ironic because Iomega made at least some of the money that made it possible for Zip to exist and for Syquest to stop existing by (along with Nomai) cloning SyQuest 44/88/200 cartridges, due to a technicality in the way SyQuest's patent was written and the actual physical design of the way their drives and cartridges were built.

The other frustrating thing is that Iomega had better technologies, but Zip is just what ended up being cheap enough to sell like that. Even worse is that ultimately MO was actually cheaper per megabyte than Zip if you had more than just a couple disks worth of data.

just because that is what I had back in the day, for nostalgic reasons. 
Fun and nostalgia is pretty much the only reason to use any of these formats for anything. SCSI2SD v5.5 is arguably better and more reliable as a removable or swappable media format for any kind of "actual use".

I picked up an EZ-135 and a Bernoulli 230, mostly because they're Neat. I have some Zip stuff, but I dislike it a lot, aesthetically, mostly because I believe Iomega behaved very badly as a company.

 
I should clarify Re MO: By 1998, which was admittedly a couple years into Zip being available, MO was less expensiver per gig, for the cartridges, but with the up front cost of a drive, there's obviously a particular crossover point at which you either have under or over a certain amount where one of the options is, in total, more eocnomical than the other.

I haven't put together information on what that looked like in, say, 1997, or 1996. Of course, in the US in particular, a lot of what made Zip "win" was that you could buy the cartridges at Wal Mart and Staples.

That late 1998 issue of MacWorld was the one where MacWorld correctly identified "add more hard disks" as the msot viable and cost effective general purpose storage solution, and that's pretty much been where we've been since.

Relatedly, the big disadvantage of MO is traditionally performance. 

Cartridge systems have existed since, but the advent of USB and Firewire meant that the need for a storage platter to be removable from the actual "mechanism" is essentially long gone. Without removable systems, you would previously have had to turn off your computer and re-wire internal or external peripherals to change what particular set of data you were working on, especially for any piece of information bigger than a floppy diskette.

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In 1998, the other-other thing is that 640-meg 3.5" MO cartridges are less expensive than both Zip and Jaz per-meg, but if Zip filled a need for relatively small datasets. Older 128/230-meg MO cartridges would have worked in a 640 mechanism, but I don't know at that moment how that would have changed the cost.

 
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I have a 44MB SyQuest drive in a Compact form factor case and man, it's just perfect for a single drive Plus or additional storage on the SEs and SE/30, and doesn't take up any more room on the desk.  But wow, is it LOUD.

Should fire up my Zip drive sometime and see if it still works.  I even have the Zip battery pack for it - bet that thing's quite dead by now.

 
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