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  1. Cory5412

    Lacie S2S upgrading over 5tb?

    I hadn't heard of this device before, really neat. Some SATA controllers, RAID controllers especially, have trouble with disks over a certain size. The Dell PERC6/i can handle up to 2TB disks and HP had a disk shelf that accepted SATA disks and used SCSI externally to connect to a host machine, and that device accepted up to 250GB disks, to present a 2TB volume to the host. So, my guess here is 1TB is the maximum size the controller in this device supports. Unfortunately, if I had to guess based on the datasheet and manual, it's probably not really possible to circumvent that or avoid that controller by replacing it with something better, but I haven't pulled one of these apart. You might be able to pull the backplane off and wire it up to a newer sata expander or to five usb/sata bridgeboards or to five esata ports on some cards, for example.
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    How to safely ship a Performa 550/575?

    Glad to hear this made it safely! These are beautiful machines and it's such a shame to see so many of them lost to shipping these days. Over the last several years, I've had lots of luck laying cardboard, then a blanket (often folded over) down in the back of my van and placing big old Apple monitors face down, held in with some bungee straps. I've done some smaller things (AudioVision 14) face down in the van's seats as well, buckled in, and that's worked well, so it's good to hear that something similar worked well for a 575. It's interesting to hear that the 520 and 550 are holding up better than 575s and 580s. 575, in particular, as the 575's frame is, as far as I happen to know, identical to the 520/550, but the 580's frame/case was revised a bit to accommodate the cost-reduced display and the updated motherboard. (Though, there's any number of reasons for what happens to the plastics on these things.)
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    Apple CRT Monitors vs Other CRT Monitors

    It depends on what you mean by quality. In my experience, almost every monitor Apple bothered to put their logo on was at the very least "pretty good" - most that now survive were excellent.. Even the "bad" ones are, really, fine monitors, just, budget-oriented. I'm guessing something like one of the Performa branded monitors is going to be about equivalent to that Philips monitor you have. (In fact, I believe one of them might have been a badget Philips display, I've seen other logos and HD15 VGA cables on some of the Performa and budget oriented Apple monitors.) The AudioVision 14 is the same display as the M1212, just with the (excellent) speakers and the additional connections. If you're using onboard graphics on a 6100 variant, and you don't have a DOS card, the AudioVision 14 makes perfect sense to use. If you can get one, do it. They're great. The Multiple Scan 14 and 15/15AV are other reasonable options for a setup like this. They're budget oriented shadow mask monitors, they all have speakers, but among them the 15AV are the most worth using, followed by the 14 and the MS15's speaker is probably better ignored for gaming purposes, in favor of headphones or dedicated speakers. Other Apple monitors to look for that are "excellent" or "high end" would be the Macintosh Color Display 16, which aren't super common in my experience but are very nice, and the Multiple Scan 17 and 20, which are trinitron displays, as well as the Apple High Resolution 13-inch color display. There was also a 640x480 monochrome 12-inch display, which, if you can find it, is probably worth it. Any newer display from Apple will probably also be fine. Some of the 17-inch monitors after the Multiple Scan 17 were more budget oriented and switched to shadow-mask tech, but I found them to look good when I've seen them. (I've had some face time with a 1705, a 720, and a 1710, and the 1710 is arguably better than the 1705 and 720, but are still pretty great, all things considered.) One thing to be aware of, now that I think of it, with the 16-inch Macintosh Color Display is that the 640x480 mode on it will end up displaying in the center of monitor, so if you're going to be predominantly at 640x480 for gaming purposes, the MCD16 might not be the display to get. The other thing with the 6100's onboard video is that it is limited to 832x624 as its max res. Though, if you have the A/V card or either of the 7100/8100 HPV graphics cards you can get 1152x870, which looks just gorgeous on a Multiple Scan 20, the monitor originally introduced to sit at the top of the display lineup alongside the 8100. (All of the Multiple Scan displays will scale the picture up and down per the resolution you choose on them, which might make any of them better for predominantly 640x480 work than any Macintosh Color Display, asides from the 14-inch one (the M1212). There's the 12-inch color monitor for Mac but it's 512x384 and so you'd have to want to run a lot of Compact-era software on like an LC with system 6 or 7.1 or whatever for that to be specifically relevant, although they are fun and they do still work out until like the beige G3s. Pretty much any of those new monitors will probably look a lot better than any low end monitor so I'd say it'd probably be fine. The thing that makes the M1212 and other "good" or "high end" Apple monitors what they are is that they're based on trinitron technology, which is Sony's high end monitor technology. (later ones are based on a similar idea from another company) The other thing I tend to recommend thinking about looking at is much newer LCDs. I have a Dell P1914S and I've found that it's pretty good in terms of scaling lower resolution output and weirder resolutions. (Though the last time I used it on a vintage system was with the Sun, outputting 1152x900, so I don't know off hand what it'd look like at 640x480, 800x600 or 832x624.) The biggest problem with the, uh, biggest displays is that they're moderately difficultt o find and ship, and so you might think about substituting a search for, say, a Multiple Scan 20 or any AppleVision display for something like a Dell P780 or similar. Basically, normal high end PC displays. Dell UltraScan, Gateway CrystalVision, Compaq had a similar line, HP had a similar line, and so on. Most of these would be Trinitron based, and often they directly used Sony's enclosures as well.
  4. Hah. That's an interesting way to measure stuff, and I take it that you've seen the web site that used to list everything back to 1998 or so and show what it's value in stock would have been if you bought it new. (Kanga ranks highest on that web site, mainly because they didn't go much further back than it.) The AV14 was one of the first Apple monitor I was able to get my hands on and I have lots of fond memories of using my 840av with it, with a walkman piped to its line in to have some music going on in the background. Those speakers are great. There's a more general criticism if you look at the AV14 in 1993 of how much more it costs than the 14-inch Macintosh Color Display relative to what basically anyone not using it for some kind of media production would "get out of it" in terms of functionality. The 16-inch Macintosh Color Display would have cost around $1299 at that moment, at least if you were a recipient of Apple's direct-sales catalog in that moment. So, in that context it admittedly looks pretty gadgety, but if you bought it for a lot less (I don't remember what I got mine for, but it was a really good deal, because in like 1999 they weren't selling for meaningfully more than 13-inch High-Res displays or 14-inch Mac Color Displays.)
  5. Oh, forgot one! Some iBooks supported analog video output through their headphone jack using a 3.5mm minijack that was longer and had more connectors than usual. This isn't coo out of the ordinary, but if I'm remembering correctly, it was non-standard even compared to what's typically standard in that particular realm of non-standard (though this is all possibly faulty memory.) (oops, forgot to hit post and I see Fizzbin added that one. Thank you!) Makes sense. When it was new in 1993, the AudioVision 14 was like $750 and so by 1995 it was probably a pretty good deal, perhaps even better than the Multiple Scan 15, which would have gotten you okayish speakers and 832x624, but a shadow-mask tube. So, it probably was a really good deal, and I've had a hypothesis for a fair while that Mac users tended to keep displays through a number of system upgrades anyway. My experience in ~1999-2003 was that it was very tough to find bigger older displays used. It basically took changing to digital technologies and LCDs for older Apple monitors to shake loose. Anyway - as to why your dealer had an AV14 ins tock - this is basically the same problem Apple had literally the entire time from 1987-1988 or so to 1999ish which was that there was just always a huge amount of back-stock at retailers and in warehouses. This was "fixed" in 1997 but it took several years to actually resolve, because even at a deal it's kind of tough to sell an old computer once its replacement has launched. And, yeah, you can do video on 640x480, just that it would've been better on a bigger display - even if you were displaying the video at 320x240 or so. Keep in mind, I unironically love the AV14, that's just criticism against it that exists. (And, I agree with, generally). Heck, by 1993 or 1994 or so even office workers were starting to want more space for doing things like displaying spreadsheet and presentation or word processing or page layout documents at once, or working on bigger or more involved documents. That was part of the sales pitch of the Multiple Scan 20, which was originally introduced as a high end display and survived as a midrange display into the AppleVision/ColorSync era for a fair bit less than what it originally shipped at.
  6. Sure, to the extent that there "weren't" standards per se (other than just various combinations of BNC cables) - Apple chose a DA15 connector (probably because they had already used it on the IIgs in 1986) and then used it until 1999. (Laptops switched earlier and were in that sense "non-standard" within the Mac universe, except of course that adding VGA to the 2400/3400 was probably to appease PowerBook toting executives and salespersons who didn't want to use another adapter when a projector was set up with only PC cabling.) I'd count it as non-standard in this context because: Apple chose to use it Chose to continue using it even after VGA was deemed the desktop/microcomputer industry's "standard". Even though it's reasonably well known that the Mac user community would have been beside itself with pure unbridled joy if Apple had switched Macs to VGA in, like, 1992. Every single workstation vendor who had been using multi-BNC connectors or 13w3 switched to VGA (and ultimately DVI-I), mostly before Apple did, aside from long-life products (the Octane/2 for example was introduced in like 1997 and the platform was still on sale in 2006, but 1996's O2 had switched to VGA, though).
  7. Cory5412

    Wiki/Pages article ideas

    video connectors - perhaps related to an adapters article.
  8. Splitting this away from quotes to make it clear this isnt' "to" anyone specifically, and is just me personally waxing poetic for my love of "super weird Apple" Tangentially 2: I love AudioVision.. I'll agree entirely that Apple implemented it wrong, but it's among my absolute favorite weird Mac things. At this point, I'm absolutely here for, just, totally wackadoodle things Apple did for whatever reason that nobody can figure out, and AudioVision is peak that. My most favorite configuration is an AudioVision 14 as the primary/only display on a 6100 with a DOS card. Imagine buying all that stuff and then finding out you need two adapers for your monitor and you need to use them both alongside the regular PC compatibility mess. Aside from that, I have a high end love for the idea of using an 8100 with its onboard video on the floor connected to an AudioVision up on a table, with the keyboard/mouse wired into the display. I used my first 840av that way exclusively and it was just beautiful not to have to worry about Apple's criminally short ADB cables. (Longer ones do exist but I've only ever managed to find, like, one of Apple's own, one or two 6-10ft ADB cables and one single ADB-compatible cable even longer than that, in 20+ years that I've been playing with these things, and so AudioVision solved that problem extremely handily.) If I were working at Apple in 1994, I would probably have tried to get them to build a 16-inch AudioVision display and beefed up the onboard video in at least the 7100/8100, to make it a little more compelling to actually use, and perhaps asked for a non-AV 14-inch HDI14 monitor. Other Apple monitors, like the 15-inch Studio Display, AppleVisions, Multiple Scan 17+ and Macintosh Color Display 16+ also had solutions to these problems, but they require even more ADB cables (including one long enough to reach from the back of the stand to the computer, for the MCD/MS variations) and so I haven't ended up using them that way, myself, in part because I'm short-ish on ADB cables these days and in part because i did mange at some point to find, like, a 15-foot ADB-compatible cable. I will say, with that in mind, the AppleVision/ColorSync/Studio solution to this problem (ADB/sound splitting off from the main display cable at the end) is probably the most elegant solution in that you can use it on any compatible Mac without adapters (or with fewer adapters) and can choose which video card to use, etc etc. Today, USB Type C does most of this pretty handily, and to be honest with LED backlighting at small enough sizes, LCD displays now use little enough power that they can be run off of Type C at typical phone charging power levels, so it's hypothetically possible to power a monitor off of something like a Mac mini. Regardless, though, lots of Type C enabled monitors now have downstream USB hubs for things like headsets and USB keyboards/mice, which handily solves the problem I was describing. (It also helps that Apple started shipping bluetooth in most of its desktops like just around fifteen years ago, and has since gone all-in on wireless keyboards/mice.)
  9. Editorial: Apple isn't forcing anything on you. You're free to buy another kind of computer to avoid having to work with Apple's connection standards. Anyway, collecting this information would be pretty good wiki content, so I'm going to link to this thread from the wiki rollup/to-do list thread. In total: DA15 - the regular Mac video connector, whcih isn't standard anywhere else and the connector for which is in fact reused by Ethernet and PC game ports 13W3 - for the portrait, 2-page, and if I remember correctly also the 21-inch Macintosh Color Display - 13w3 as a concept is standardized but different workstation vendors. There's lots of different variation. Separate-sync, composite sync, and sync on green as examples.) S-Video connectors with 12V power in them for running the ATi XClaim VR tuners and the Quicktime Conferencing System video cameras HDI45 - AudioVision 14 and 6100/7100/8100 (combined ADB and audio in/out, the monitors have s-video input but I don't know whether this ever really worked) PC compatibility card output and cable harnesses PowerBook video output - adapter to larger DA15 connector (not counting the entire concept of a duodock as a video adapter/dongle) ADC (which also supplied power to the monitor and USB connectivity) MiniVGA MiniDVI Dual-Link DVI - Apple claims to have invented to dual-link DVI for the 30-inch Cinema Display. They probably didn't invent it but they might have popularized it Original MacBook Air video port Mini DisplayPort (this connector became Thunderbolt 2, and also ended up becoming more or less an industry standard.) Thunderbolt 3 (Also on one or two Mac models as USB Type C but without Thunderbolt credentials.) Macs have also shipped with: VGA DVI-I, Dual-Link DVI-D HDMI If you want to count these: iPod/iPhone/iPad 30-pin connector which has analog/HDMI/VGA video output for mirroring purposes iPhone/iPad/iPod Lightning connector, which can mirror video iPad USB Type C output I feel like I'm forgetting something. What's the overall setup for that look like? ADC -> DVI -> VGA -> VGA monitor (or KVM?) That might work but it relies on the ADC to DVI adapter providing DVI-I output, which, is a lot but that kind of number of adapters isn't unprecedented per se. I have a setup where I'm using Apple's DVI to VGA adapter and an Apple VGA to DA15 adapter to run a Multiple Scan 20 on a 2006 macmini, for example. What ended up happening, at least at my institution, is that for a couple years, Mini DisplayPort, HDMI, and VGA were jointly available on every single portablecomputer on campus, short just a handful of them, so we installed video switchers with all three of those inputs at every lectern and nobody has to carry video adapters. People who go a lot of places and don't trust the places they go or who have a lot of different scenarios within their own ecosystem (hypothetically let's say I set a macbook air down at like three types of monitors) will need to buy the video adapters to connect their computer to whatever display they have.) Lots of PC manufacturers followed Apple in offering mDP on notebook computers and small-form-factor computers. It was convenient because it meant the adapters I already had for my Mac worked with my Surface 3 and Surface Laptop, for example. To be honest, I think the vast majority of actual traveling notebook/laptop users at this point don't really end up needing video adapters. Most people aren't presenting when they're out-and-about, and so they only ever really need to buy adapters for the scenario that they want to "dock" to a bigger display or a TV or whatever at home, so I bet something on the order of 93-97% of 2010 to 2017 MacBook Airs (mDP and TB2 outputs) have never had an adapter conected and the bulk of the ones who have, it was a borrowed or tied-in-place adapter. So,, like, it's a little bit of a different situation than in 1996 when primarily executives and traveling salespersons had laptops and a much higher proportion of that population has a need to do presentations. Tangentially - I thought the AV14 would have been discontinued by that time. I wonder if they meant to sell you a Multiple Scan 14 instead. And, most descriptions I've seen of the AV14 suggest that it's suitable for multimedia consumption but not really multimedia authoring, because by 1994, you really kind of wanted a bigger display, especially at the higher end if you were going to deal with video bigger than 320x240 (which on paper the 7500 can do, especially with a serial-controllable video deck) because 640x480 in total leaves very little room for timelines, a preview, command palettes, etc.
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    Weird system file on performa

    Apple disks are called 69x-xxxx, so there's a reasonably good chance that this is an archive file of some sort meant for restoring the system to its original state, or creating a set of restore diskettes. Is there a program on it that has or looks like it has something to do with like restore CDs or disk maker or anything like that?
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    LC475 / Power Macintosh 8200 / Performa 630

    The Four Types of 68k Mac: - Macintosh - Macintosh II - Macintosh III - Macintosh IV I feel like product rationalization in the G3 era is a fairly significant amount of what saved Apple. There's no single hard reason for every single 040 Mac not to have been called Quadra [number] (Or Mac IV with modifiers) except that Apple tried really hard in the early-mid '90s to separate things into segment-targeted Brands(TM) (Quadra, LC, Centris, Performa) and, across the entire desktop Mac line, none of it ever ended up being consistent. For example, as we've found out, there are: - Quadras with LC040s and no Ethernet - Centrises with Full 040s and Ethernet - Performas with full 040s - LCs with full 040s And so on. Architecturally, the 630 and 605 come directly out of the LC family. Performa is just a badge that got applied to what was mostly, architecturally and feature-wise, LC-series computers for the purpose of selling them to homes. (And Classics and the IIvx, except for the IIvi/vx was also architecturally more similar to an LC II than a Mac II, probably for the purpose of making it cheaply. Incidentally, I have utterly no idea why the Quadra 605 exists as a discrete product with its own unique case separate from the LC475, to which it is literally identical internally. I don't think "LC" as a name had any stigma associated with it in the way Performa did. It makes sense for them to badge engineer it for the different markets (edu vs. normal mac channel retail) (I mean, tbh that doesn't even make sense, but it's what Apple was commonly doing at the time) but it doesn't strictly speaking make any sense that they gave it its own case. It's cute and aesthetically I'm glad it does, but.
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    LC475 / Power Macintosh 8200 / Performa 630

    Thought: When we discuss the Quadra-label version of the 630, I'm sure at least once you've said that the presence of the Full 040 is what makes something a Quadra. If that were true, and we were going to be internally consistent about this, then the Quadra 605 would be discontinued from being "A Quadra" for its lack of an FPU. (Notably, the 610 also has this going on.) I would say you could define Quadra (or at least non-AV quadras) by A/UX compatibility, which disqualifies the 630 and 605 as being True Quadras because of their [drumroll] chipset and video differences. It's all badge engineering regardless, and the 630/605 are particularly low-rent Lexuses, in this context. Like, if Lexus badged up a Yaris. In that "these designations aren't real, except when I want them to be" the 630 and 605 should probably have been Centrises. Centris was a model name sold to the same channels as Quadra, but it implied small-medium-business and small-office-home-office kinds of computers, which is where the 605/630 really fit. (Much more than the 650 and 800, for example.) The Centris line also inconsistently had Ethernet (And, you could argue onboard Ethernet is the sign of a True Quadra, but) and inconsistently had full/LC040s.
  13. Cory5412

    Wiki/Pages article ideas

    Zip drive information in general. Probably structured in a couple ways: General overview of what removable storage technologies existed, properties of the different ones. Reference pages for each media with how-to/guides/recommendations and additional details a page detailing why Zip drives are the way they are any repair findings or troubleshooting suggestions we fine
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    Iomega Zip 100 Drive Click of Death Repair?

    I'm Interested(TM) and, for what it's worth, although clicking might have been a symptom (because clicking, generally, is a sign that the drive is malfunctioning or can't get a read on the disk) if this works, I'd say that it's probably fair to say that what these drives suffered isn't, strictly speaking, Click Of Death, which is a pretty specific set of things, mostly resulting in data loss and sometimes loss of the physical media and sometimes the infection of other units, depending on which particular subcategory of problem you have. Adding this thread to my wiki notes thread. A thought there is as part of rounding up what options exist and what the pros/cons of each are, how-to and troubleshooting info for each of them might be relevant.
  15. Query: After setting up all those TCP/IP options, did you open a TCP/IP application like a web browser or FTP client? The Classic Mac OS TCP client didn't come configured out of the box to try to get an IP on startup until, if I'm remembering correctly, "pretty late on". I've forgotten whether or not this is enabled by default in 8.1, so it might be worth doing. You can change the TCP/IP control panel to advanced or administrator mode and then go if i remember correctly (my apologies, I'm not at a machine where I can look) go to preferences and tell it (I forgot what the text is, I'm sorry) to enable tcp/ip before anything asks for it specifically. This will use a little bit of resources, probably, but depending on your configuration or your overall intent, won't matter. Also, if I remember correctly, if you are using an IP-based AppleShare server (like hypotehtically vtools or whatever) you shouldn't have to have AppleTalk enabled. AppleTalk would need to be if you wanted to share files from an 8.1 machine (appleshare over ip wasn't added to the base/client OS until sometime in the 9 era, or with the ppc-only appleshare ip 5 or 6 server product) or use your 8.1 machine to connect to something running 8.6 (again I don't remember the exact cutoff for when IP file sharing was added, I don't know if it was 9.0/9.1/9.2)) or older's personal file sharing. (so, I guess it is needed for a lot of AFP scenarios, but, like, you can get away without if your using osx server, appleshare-ip, netatalk2, or you're not using appleshare at all, like if you're using ftp/hotline/web/whatever.)
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