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bigsadhu
Junior Member


Cayman Island
462 Posts
Posted - 24 May 2002 :  07:23:14
To my knowledge there's no SETI client for pre-PPC macs (Please, oh please correct me!), however I have observed that several members of the army have mac collections extending beyond the realms of 68kdom. Would any of the troops be interested in combining firepower and volunteering for a 68KMLA SETI@home assault squad?

I've just cracked 1,000 work units and 20,000 hours, so this would make a good basis for our war effort.

TROOPS, FALL IN!

Cheers!
CC

Current score:

1 eMate 300
1 Apple //e
2 LC IIs
1 LC III
4 LC 475s
6 Quadra 605s
1 Quadra 700
1 Quadra 800
1 PB 520c
2 Powermac 6100s
1 PowerComputing Powerbase 240
1 Wallstreet
and a partridge in a pear tree

Edited by - bigsadhu on 24 May 2002 07:24:42

~Coxy
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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 24 May 2002 :  07:49:55
Sounds good - but is Seti any more forgiving towards modem users than Folding? If my latest 5 point protein doesn't show up then I'm switching for sure...

Is there an RSA-key@home client for 68k?

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 24 May 2002 :  08:58:09
Perhaps one could get SETI@Home working under AUX or Debian on a 68k? Can you get the source for the Linux/UNIX version of the key algorithms? (maybe at UNIX-related SETI sites )

A bit'o recompiling and scripting might yield a working system. May not offer the pretty screen saver graphics, but it could turn a battalion of liberated 68ks into valued contributors to the SETI cause. (Hmm.. perhaps JT's warming oven of microquadras could be subverted for SETI use.

g4from128k

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 24 May 2002 :  09:29:58
quote:

A bit'o recompiling and scripting might yield a working system. May not offer the pretty screen saver graphics, but it could turn a battalion of liberated 68ks into valued contributors to the SETI cause. (Hmm.. perhaps JT's warming oven of microquadras could be subverted for SETI use.


<bugeyes> woo!

jt . .

back again: is there more required for running a 68k appleseed cluster than Launch Den Mother and Launch Puppy?

quote:

Launch Den Mother and Launch Puppy are a pair of Mac applications designed to assist in starting up parallel executables compiled with the MacMPI.f library.

http://daugerresearch.com/LDM/LaunchDenMotherPuppy68k.hqx


i don't know squat about this kinda crap, but it looks to me like and apps for appleseed clusters were developed using the same tools. could SETI@home be recompiled to run under the Mac OS on 68k's using LaunchDenMotherPuppy68k?

i'm so confused! i can't find the kinks i just looked at and i can't find'em again!

f****t! i'm gonna stick to hardware!

ciao!

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 24 May 2002 :  16:57:35
quote:

back again: is there more required for running a 68k appleseed cluster than Launch Den Mother and Launch Puppy?

.........

i'm so confused! i can't find the links i just looked at and i can't find'em again!

f****t! i'm gonna stick to hardware!

ciao!

Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 24 May 2002 10:19:19


Unfortunately, yes. You need an application with C or Fortran multiprocessing code written into it (using the MacMPI library, which is a subset of the industry standard API for parallel computing based on message passing). Den Mother and Den Puppy are intended to facilite the launch of multiprocessing applications -- launching a sequence of executables in the desired order so that they intercommunicate as needed. Judging by the readme notes, the result of a successful launch should be a cacophony of yips and barks (and like any good programmer, the cute icon and sound effects appeared in the earlist version).

BTW, I know how frustrating it is to lose links. You do a search, you find something cool, you forget to bookmark it, you rerun the search and the cool link is missing!!! ARRRGH! My own googling pulled up http://exodus.physics.ucla.edu/appleseed/appleseed.html as a good starting point (but you probably know about that page already).

As to sticking with hardware, I think I'm with you (although how teeny tiny electrons can pass thru solid metal is a beyond me ) . Parallel and distributed programming can (and has in my case) lead to hair loss.

g4from128k

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-- The Originals: 128k, Mac II
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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 24 May 2002 :  17:47:03
quote:

quote:

back again: is there more required for running a 68k appleseed cluster than Launch Den Mother and Launch Puppy?

.........

i'm so confused! i can't find the links i just looked at and i can't find'em again!

f****t! i'm gonna stick to hardware!

ciao!

Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 24 May 2002 10:19:19


Unfortunately, yes. You need an application with C or Fortran multiprocessing code written into it (using the MacMPI library, which is a subset of the industry standard API for parallel computing based on message passing) . . . .
As to sticking with hardware, I think I'm with you (although how teeny tiny electrons can pass thru solid metal is a beyond me ) . Parallel and distributed programming can (and has in my case) lead to hair loss.



LOL, dealing with a teenager is beginning to take a toll on my own hairline!

i think what i was reading about SETI@home was that it was written in (might have fortran, dunno!) something that looked like the code might be easier to port than going thru A/UX or linux, don't remember, but looked good.

what's http://www.softonic.com/informacion_extendida.phtml
<RETURN INSERTED>
%3Fn_id%3D9167%26plat%3D3&prev=
<RETURN INSERTED>
/search%3Fq%3Dseti%2B68k%2Bmacintosh
<RETURN INSERTED>
%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff" target="_blank"> this?

EDITED: NEVER MIND! SEE WIDESCREEN MODE DISCUSSION!

time to take go something apart! (maybe with my framing hammer!)

jt faq.asp.html#hyperlink.

Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 08 Jun 2002 07:28:40

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 25 May 2002 :  05:43:22
Interesting long UUUUUURRRRRRLLLLLL (I had to reGoogle to get to it cuz the link did not penetrate Softonic's homepage), but I fear that it is just a bit of misinformation. Other sites claim that SETI@Home 3+ is PPC-only. (Worse, tracing the history of SETI revealed that even version 1 of the clientware was PPC-only)

Re taking things apart, I have an old camcorder that is scheduled for the chopping block today. I can't wait to delve into the fiddly-bits of tape-transport, zoom lens, and imager. I just need to be careful not scatter screws on the carpet. SAF plummets when the vacuum cleaner inhales screws!!!!

g4from128k

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 25 May 2002 :  06:03:11
Back again after oogling some googling....

It may not be SETI, but I did find a distributed computation effort that is 68k friendly! http://www.distributed.net/" target="_blank"> http://www.distributed.net/ has clients for just about every OS imaginable (from Acorn to BeOS). 68k clients include MacOS and NetBSD. While I can't vouch for them (story of my life -- have not had time to download/install the stuff) it looks like an active effort.

g4from128k

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thelip
Full Member


USA
729 Posts
Posted - 25 May 2002 :  11:40:55
I was a die hard seti user for years until the past 6 months and i've moved over to folding@home. Unfortunately they don't support 68k. Only macos x.

As far as appleseed clusters go, I have found that i do need compiled apps for parallel computing. Unfortunately, I'm clueless when it comes to software, so I either have to find something already compiled or give up on the appleseed idea.

I think an army of 68k distributed clients would rock. Seti used to support 68k but quit support for them a while ago due to the added changes and more things to compute were added. They removed a couple dozen clients for the reason that they were too slow to do the job. Little do they know....

So, i'm all for getting the artillery running a distributed client of some kind. They're begging for some battle.

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 25 May 2002 :  12:02:43
quote:

I'm clueless when it comes to software, so I either have to find something already compiled or give up on the appleseed idea.


glad to know i'm not the ONLY one! i wrote one program (loan amortization routine) in basic on a Trash80 (in an adult ed class at the kid's middle school long before he was born!)
quote:

I think an army of 68k distributed clients would rock. Seti used to support 68k but quit support for them a while ago due to the added changes and more things to compute were added. They removed a couple dozen clients for the reason that they were too slow to do the job. Little do they know....

So, i'm all for getting the artillery running a distributed client of some kind. They're begging for some battle.



i think it'd be a lot of fun too, i'm kinda leery of distributed processing running full time tho. it'd be fun to find something to in house with the BrickOven, maybe one of the old rendering packages? a 10.5" cube renderfarm might be doable?

jt . .

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thelip
Full Member


USA
729 Posts
Posted - 25 May 2002 :  13:55:23
quote:

it'd be fun to find something to in house with the BrickOven, maybe one of the old rendering packages? a 10.5" cube renderfarm might be doable?


I think my version of bryce 1 supported network processing, i'll look it up when i can find it.

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bigsadhu
Junior Member


Cayman Island
462 Posts
Posted - 30 May 2002 :  02:20:39
OK trendsetters, the wheels are in motion and this your chance to get in on the ground floor.

Here's our projected timeline:

May 2002: 68k MLA SETI team founded.
November 2002: Alien life discovered by a recompiled Linux SETI client running on a Quadra 605 under NetBSD, after finally completeing its first workunit.
January 2003: Motorola abandons the PowerPC and returns to the proven 68k architecture.
August 2003: Moto 68099 chip hits 4Ghz.
December 2003: 68k chips overtake Intel's P5 as the world's most widely used processor.
March 2004: Woz elected Secretary General of the UN.

So don't delay. Bring all your firepower, G3s, G4s, even AMDs...in fact anything that'll run the SETI client. Its for a good cause.

Where do I sign up? Oh, step this way

Cheers!
CC

Current score:

1 eMate 300
1 Apple //e
1 Macintosh Portable
2 LC IIs
1 LC III
3 LC 475s
5 Quadra 605s
1 Quadra 700
1 Quadra 800
1 PB 520c
2 Powermac 6100s
1 PowerComputing Powerbase 240
1 Wallstreet
and a partridge in a pear tree

Edited by - bigsadhu on 30 May 2002 02:22:58

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 30 May 2002 :  03:23:21
quote:

OK trendsetters, the wheels are in motion and this your chance to get in on the ground floor.

Here's our projected timeline:

May 2002: 68k MLA SETI team founded.
November 2002: Alien life discovered by a recompiled Linux SETI client running on a Quadra 605 under NetBSD, after finally completeing its first workunit.
January 2003: Motorola abandons the PowerPC and returns to the proven 68k architecture.
August 2003: Moto 68099 chip hits 4Ghz.
December 2003: 68k chips overtake Intel's P5 as the world's most widely used processor.
March 2004: Woz elected Secretary General of the UN.

So don't delay. Bring all your firepower, G3s, G4s, even AMDs...in fact anything that'll run the SETI client. Its for a good cause.

Where do I sign up? Oh, step this way

Cheers!
CC

Current score:

1 eMate 300
1 Apple //e
1 Macintosh Portable
2 LC IIs
1 LC III
3 LC 475s
5 Quadra 605s
1 Quadra 700
1 Quadra 800
1 PB 520c
2 Powermac 6100s
1 PowerComputing Powerbase 240
1 Wallstreet
and a partridge in a pear tree

Edited by - bigsadhu on 30 May 2002 02:22:58

Edited by - bigsadhu on 30 May 2002 02:29:43

Edited by - bigsadhu on 30 May 2002 02:36:43

Edited by - bigsadhu on 30 May 2002 02:44:30


*signs up*

You'll know who i am...

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Da Penguin
Senior Member


USA
1094 Posts
Posted - 30 May 2002 :  19:02:06
woohoo! count me in!

Now not to disgrace 68k's *shields self with odd casing parts* But i think my dual 800 may help a *lil* bit....

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Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 30 May 2002 :  19:28:52
You know, there's a RC5 Key-cracking client availiable for just about every platform, including 68k.


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scchicago
Full Member


USA
936 Posts
Posted - 02 Jun 2002 :  07:58:56
Um, what's SETI?

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2822 Posts
Posted - 02 Jun 2002 :  08:16:19
Search for Extra Terristrial Intelligence - UBerkeley sends out raw data for people to computer using their unused CPU cycles - they send out finished 'work-units.'

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 02 Jun 2002 :  14:42:36
Just signed up. I used to be a member of the macaddict team, but i let my account die out. SNES forever...

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scchicago
Full Member


USA
936 Posts
Posted - 03 Jun 2002 :  14:44:24
um, ok. I wouldn't like it using the little dial-up bandwidth that I do have. besides I don't want to waste my cycles and don't know where to get a client.

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scchicago
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USA
936 Posts
Posted - 03 Jun 2002 :  14:45:15
I know I know...
not being able to find a client for ANYTHING is a
bad excuse...

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 03 Jun 2002 :  18:55:36
Theres only one client. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu
It only connects to the internet every day or so for about 5 minutes

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 03 Jun 2002 :  18:58:44
Is it just me or have the work units gotten bigger? I used to run it about a year or two ago on my iMac, and I averaged about 18 hours per unit. Now, the first unit is going to take about 25 hours or more, based on how much it has done so far. Is my poor iMac just overloaded?

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 03 Jun 2002 :  19:22:17
quote:

Is it just me or have the work units gotten bigger? I used to run it about a year or two ago on my iMac, and I averaged about 18 hours per unit. Now, the first unit is going to take about 25 hours or more, based on how much it has done so far. Is my poor iMac just overloaded?


ROTFLLSHMFSH! you just did one of those panoramic posts yourself there candypunk!

HAR!™

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 04 Jun 2002 :  18:44:00
WHAT THE?!?!?!?!

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 04 Jun 2002 :  18:51:39
quote:

WHAT THE?!?!?!?!

{ candyPunk }
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{ My baby: Q660av }


indeed...

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 04 Jun 2002 :  20:45:52
quote:

WHAT THE?!?!?!?!


your previous post sent this thread into widescreen mode!
you were complaining about wide posts in another thread!

that's funny, no?

or did the extra "L" in my abbreviation throw you off?

oops!

jt .
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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 06 Jun 2002 :  14:28:32
I meant it in the sense of "what the heck happened?!"

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G4from128k
Full Member


USA
873 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  05:45:29
quote:

I meant it in the sense of "what the heck happened?!"

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Actually, this topic went wwwiiidddeeessscccrrreeeeeennn (for me, at least) when jt posted that massive URL back on 24 May 2002 : 17:47:03. So, I don't think candyPunk did it. I bet if we could cajole jt into editing his old posting and replacing the text half of that long URL with something shorter, this topic will pop back to normal width.

Just another silly idea from a widesreen-obsessed crazy old coot.

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  14:28:00
quote:

Actually, this topic went wwwiiidddeeessscccrrreeeeeennn (for me, at least) when jt posted that massive URL back on 24 May 2002 : 17:47:03. So, I don't think candyPunk did it. I bet if we could cajole jt into editing his old posting and replacing the text half of that long URL with something shorter, this topic will pop back to normal width.


did somebody edit it for me already or was it another posting. right noew it appears to have returned top normal mode. when i posted, blaming candypunk's post, i had scrolled the length of the thread and his post preceding mine was the only one extending as far as the edge.

VERY STRANGE!

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Marchie
Chaplain


USA
911 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  14:29:11
ROTFLLSHMFSH

Ok fine.. take out and L and I STILL need that one translated... I don;t know how half the people here who didn't wander thru the BBS days understand you jt!

I have no problem of course... I used to dial into the local Mac User Group BBS via 2400 baud on my Mac SE with Microphone.

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  15:42:29
quote:

ROTFLLSHMFSH

Ok fine.. take out and L and I STILL need that one translated... I don;t know how half the people here who didn't wander thru the BBS days understand you jt!



Rolling On The Floor Laughing So Hard My Freakin' Sides Hurt! . . . .

. . . AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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p.s. hard to understand . . . . . Moi????!!!!! HAR!™


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bigsadhu
Junior Member


Cayman Island
462 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  17:36:37
quote:

quote:

ROTFLLSHMFSH


Rolling On The Floor Laughing So Hard My Freakin' Sides Hurt! . . . .

Losin' it JT... There's an xtra 'L' in there...

BTW just to return to the original topic of this thread, The official 68KMLA SETI Squad now has 4 members, we've clocked up 1125 work units, being 2.62 years of CPU time. Go Da Penguin! 12 hrs 22 per unit. Awesome!

C'mon trendsetters, join up join up.For those that are worried, joining a team DOES NOT mean you lose your individual tally. Team totals and individual totals are separate.

Cheers!
CC

Air Marshall, 605 sQUADRAn

1 eMate 300
1 Apple //e
1 Mac Portable
2 LC IIs
1 LC III
3 LC 475s
6 Quadra 605s
1 Quadra 610
1 Quadra 700
1 Quadra 800
1 PB 520c
2 Powermac 6100s
1 Powerbase 240
1 B&W 350
and a partridge in a pear tree

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Da Penguin
Senior Member


USA
1094 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  17:59:54
Hee!
Thankee!
I knew this dual 800 was good for SOMEthing! (other than a space heater )

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candyPunk
Full Member


USA
856 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  18:44:34
quote:

right noew it appears to have returned top normal mode.

So it has! It must be URLs after all! Or sometimes, at least, it is

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 07 Jun 2002 :  20:37:46
quote:

Losin' it JT... There's an xtra 'L' in there...


LOL! like i ever freakin' HAD it!

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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 08 Jun 2002 :  06:09:37
I actually took the liberty of inserting some carriage returns into jt's URL - I suggest to all the mods that now we know what the problem is we edit on sight!

Anyway, I really should start running SETI too...

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 08 Jun 2002 :  06:51:58
quote:

I actually took the liberty of inserting some carriage returns into jt's URL - I suggest to all the mods that now we know what the problem is we edit on sight!


ty, comrade, but i have no idea which url was problematic and how it was fixed, does it still work and did it work before the edit?

a widescreen-mode editing fix howto in the G-4's thread in the website forum might be a good idea.

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G4from128k
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Posted - 08 Jun 2002 :  07:11:06
quote:

quote:

I actually took the liberty of inserting some carriage returns into jt's URL - I suggest to all the mods that now we know what the problem is we edit on sight!


ty, comrade, but i have no idea which url was problematic and how it was fixed, does it still work and did it work before the edit?



Well, actually, the URL (the one Posted - 24 May 2002 : 17:47:03 by jt) never worked cuz for some reason it did not drill down past the homepage (but that's beside the point). But now it really doesn't work becuase it has been broken up into several different URL fragments.

The key to avoiding widescreen is to insert spaces in the text half (or Target half) of the URL form that used during posting (the part that shows up in blue underline). The URL itself (the HREF half) can be as long as it needs to be, you only need to insert spaces in the visible text half. (BTW, spaces work, you don't have to use carriage returns. Once Netscape sees the space, it will format the post with a line break).

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Posted - 08 Jun 2002 :  07:37:26
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The key to avoiding widescreen is to insert spaces in the text half (or Target half) of the URL form that used during posting (the part that shows up in blue underline). The URL itself (the HREF half) can be as long as it needs to be, you only need to insert spaces in the visible text half. (BTW, spaces work, you don't have to use carriage returns. Once Netscape sees the space, it will format the post with a line break).


the theory appears to require some revision!


what's http://www.softonic.com/informacion_extendida.phtml
<RETURN INSERTED>
%3Fn_id%3D9167%26plat%3D3&prev=
<RETURN INSERTED>
/search%3Fq%3Dseti%2B68k%2Bmacintosh
<RETURN INSERTED>
%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff" target="_blank"> this?

dunno wtf it was originally now tho! <rolleyes>

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Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 08 Jun 2002 07:46:15

mea culpa!
mea culpa!
mea maxima culpa!

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Posted - 08 Jun 2002 :  12:21:54
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the theory appears to require some revision!



see the New, Improved Theory after much embarrassment and gnashing of teeth

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Posted - 08 Jun 2002 :  12:29:55
quote:

quote:

the theory appears to require some revision!



see the New, Improved Theory after much embarrassment and gnashing of teeth


it's still a fine bit of work!

i have had one nested translation link work, but i don't think i had it set off in brackets tho.

"the old guard dies, but never surrenders!"

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