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Soo... I left the Portable plugged in, it got warm, now it won't start

I dont recall if I have explained it in other threads, but here is what happens with the Hybrid IC: 

The resistors are printed directly onto the ceramic substrate, Just like standard SMD resistors. Also, they have a laser etch cut to trim the carbon into the correct value of resistance. So, This is all well and good until you introduce capacitor electrolyte from the tank farm that sits just below. it gets infused into the carbon composition and alters the values of the resistors, or causes the resistors to either open, or start varying widely in resistance under load, introducing noise or instability. 

Reflowing and heating up the hybrid can sometimes drive that out, but not always, sometimes its beyond repair and the Hybrid has to be replaced. 

This is usually what happens and is almost always fatal. 

So what worries me is the guy doing the schematic for the Hybrid, While nice, it wont be a good reference to manufacture one-off replacements because of this problem. The resistance values I am seeing in the schematic does pose problems. So the only way to precisely reverse engineer a Hybrid, is to use a known good working one with Zero issues. All mine have issues so I havent been able to do so. Getting accurate resistance readings for a reverse engineering process will be difficult, if not impossible due to the above scenario. 

I am seeing 7.6Meg and 7.5Meg and 9.7Meg resistor values in here. which I know a couple of these arnt correct, and several other resistor values are all over the place. So its not a good scenario. 

 
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I believe you have explained it in various ways, here and on Think Classic. But it's always good to repeat it for those in back. ;)

You make an excellent point - like trying to determine original specs and tolerances of a 1968 911 from a clapped out barn find. I'm not sure what Pawel's ultimate intention is, if it is to replicate the IC or just to assist with troubleshooting. (Does he say on that page?)

I know you've suggested it in the past but time and energy are in limited supply, maybe between Pawel and others we can finally make some movement toward developing a replacement Hybrid...

 
yea I would have to measure the resistances of everything across multiple Portables, just so I could gauge best case scenario, then schematics can be updated with the proper values. 

 
Well, I am a damned fool.

I wasn't getting anywhere last night, fussing around... I removed C25, C26, R24, Q24, Q25, R25, cleaned and inspected their sites and nearby traces, reinstalled them, reflowed pins 8 and 11 of the Hybrid (as they are part of that chain), reflowed OP-20, reflowed the pins on J12, tested all related continuities and resistances, cleaned up a bunch of other unrelated corrosion... no improvement. Still inconsistent 4.3 - 4.7V on DISK_+5.

So, as a last ditch, no cost effort to try before shotgunning components - and to just to be sure - I thought I should clean the board again. I had already cleaned the board by hand with soapy water, rinsed with DI water and IPA and dried in the oven just before putting the new SWIM on, so I was 85%+ sure washing it again would make no difference - but it would do no harm either and rule out any (remotely) possible, lingering causes. So I put the board through the dishwasher for a normal cycle, then put in the oven preheated to 170 for about 5 minutes, then turned the oven off leaving the board inside, and went to bed.

Got up this morning, made coffee, hooked up the board to test voltages and... SOLID 4.93 on DISK_+5, and no more noises from the speaker. Put it all together and it fired right up off battery.

Bloody hell.

I'm assuming that's what DISK_+5 should be as it's not on the +5 rail but rather its own little power circuit. Battery app still doesn't work though, but I'm inclined to think that's an issue with the HDD (hoping, more like), so dealing with that is next. I've already cleaned out the gasket and inspected the platter, all appears ok, and the drive seems to work just fine (though loud), but we'll see what we see. But for the moment, I'm marking the motherboard issue (that I ignorantly caused) as resolved.  I feel like this Portable dodged a bullet thanks to this forum.

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Ran Disk Tools from floppy, said HDD needed repair, repaired successfully. Reinstalled 7.0.1, now the battery app works, and indicates when the charger is plugged in or not.

Hallelujah. :))

 
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