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PowerBook 100 display, LCD_VEE issue but inductors ok?

Hi, this is my first post so I apologize if I'm breaking any rules, please let me know. My friend bought a non-functional PowerBook 100; after fully cleaning and recapping, it turns on the backlight, chimes, and makes Mac OS sounds when pressing keys. However, the screen is completely blank:

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Obviously, the polarizer needs to be replaced, but we would still expect some discernible image -- particularly because lines show up briefly when pressing the reset button?

Following some other posts and the schematic here, they checked LCD_VEE at TP055 and found 4.7 V rather than the expected -22 V. The inductors L2, L3 and L4 all have continuity, none of the capacitors in the circuit are shorted (and all but the small ceramic SMD ones were just replaced), and they checked continuity on all these traces as well (page 11) by measuring between components at either side:

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At one point, the left side of L4 in this schematic read ~0 V while BATT_VOLTAGE (at TP052 and C17) was 7.7 V, so we suspected a broken trace, and my friend added a wire from TP052 to L4. Then they briefly detected -19 V at the top of C22, but the display still didn't work, and LCD_VEE remained at 4 V. We checked DISP_BLANK and ALWAYS ON; both were around 5 V. Confusingly, the -19 V hasn't shown up since, and even after removing the wire, the left side of L4 still reads as 7 V, so we aren't sure if the wire ever did anything at all.

Needless to say, we're extremely confused now. Any ideas what to check at this point? Is it possible for the inductors to be damaged but still show continuity? Is it abnormal for BATT_VOLTAGE to be 7 V rather than 5 V? Are there other points in the LCD_VEE circuit we can check? We only have basic electrical knowledge, enough to read the schematic but not understand how this actually makes -22 V 😅

Thank you in advance and thank you for reading such a long post.

Amy
 
Hi again, my friend removed, cleaned and resoldered U25, L2, L3, and L4 and now they're seeing 0.16 V on C22 and the LCD_VEE test point. Any other things to check? Thank you!
 
what's test point TP055 showing for voltage?

oh I see... 0.16v. not optimal at all.

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verify everything on the LCD_VEE rail, make sure everything there is clean
the LCD won't turn on without the right twist voltage (~ -22v). worst case you'll need to replace the FA7611.
if you have an ultrasonic cleaner, wash the board with that.
 
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Thank you! We didn't see any other issues, and we found the FA7611 on aliexpress for a couple bucks, so they're going to try that.
 
Hi, my friend replaced the FA7611 and it's completely unchanged, still 0.16 V at the "top" of C22 and the LCD_VEE test point. Since they tested the traces, caps, inductors and now replaced U25, are we correct in assuming the issue must be one of the resistors or diodes to the "left" of Q12? Or could the problem be with the DISP_BLANK circuit or something "downstream" of LCD_VEE?

Any ideas other than to just test these passive components one-by-one and hopefully find a discrepancy?

Sorry to keep bugging you. Thank you for all the tips so far 😅
 
Sorry I didn’t see this earlier. I’ve fixed a few PB100 logic boards with this exact behaviour and I always start by replacing C22 in the corner - it’s involved with producing the LCD drive voltage. I think you will also have to replace the 8x 3.3uF electrolytic caps on the back of the LCD before you see an improvement.

I hope you have better luck than I’ve had with replacing the polarising film. I always seem to get poor contrast and yellow/blue tints, because I don’t think the available film is correct for passive-matrix monochrome LCDs (it works well for TFT colour). Needs an additional layer (the compensator film)
 
I hope you have better luck than I’ve had with replacing the polarising film. I always seem to get poor contrast and yellow/blue tints, because I don’t think the available film is correct for passive-matrix monochrome LCDs (it works well for TFT colour). Needs an additional layer (the compensator film)
FSTN film is available now on AliExpress, it's just often expensive. No clue how the US tariffs would affect that now though, might be prohibitively expensive.
 
FSTN film is available now on AliExpress, it's just often expensive. No clue how the US tariffs would affect that now though, might be prohibitively expensive.
Thanks, I’m in New Zealand but price isn’t the problem anyway - it takes me hours to do these, especially when there’s a dust bubble and I have to do it again.

I ordered some that claimed to be FSTN, but when it turned up it was exactly the same as other films, so produced the usual results seen on the right in the photo (last night).

If you have a link to the FSTN film to try, that would be very helpful please :) Bearing in mind that some FSTN film is opaque and silver (rear polariser for non-backlit) which won’t work with backlit displays.
 

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Sorry I didn’t see this earlier. I’ve fixed a few PB100 logic boards with this exact behaviour and I always start by replacing C22 in the corner - it’s involved with producing the LCD drive voltage. I think you will also have to replace the 8x 3.3uF electrolytic caps on the back of the LCD before you see an improvement.

I hope you have better luck than I’ve had with replacing the polarising film. I always seem to get poor contrast and yellow/blue tints, because I don’t think the available film is correct for passive-matrix monochrome LCDs (it works well for TFT colour). Needs an additional layer (the compensator film)
Thank you for the reply, sorry I missed this earlier. My friend already replaced all caps, including the LCD ones and C22 (twice). As mentioned above, they also cleaned under L2/L3/L4, cleaned and replaced U25, and tested all traces in the LCD_VEE circuit by checking continuity between the components at either end. We have no idea what to try next, any other ideas?
 
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