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Pair of 840avs

coius

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Gonna get together and trade a G4 (Sawtooth) for a pair of Quadra 840AVs. Not sure what the specs are, but I went ahead and ordered a video adapter off of We Love Macs to get ready for them (he was cheaper than ebay believe it or not), so I get to play with them soon hopefully.

I am wondering now, what the heck am I going to do with them?

Suggestions? comments?

I haven't gone into 68k macs recently other than my Powerbook 540c which is running a website.

 
Put them on a shrine and admire their awesomeness? Sell one of them, and set the other one up with a fast and large HDD and use it for analog video capture?

 
Keep one as the parts machine.
We Love Macs was cheaper? Thats..... weird.

(we need a raised eyebrow emotican)
actually, since the adapter would do greater than 1156x832, or whatever it is, it really was a good deal. Ebay came in about $2USD more than We Love Macs because of shipping and such, plus the others were cheapy ones that didn't do good res. So I think I will get a good deal. I had ordered a PRAM battery from him before, so I know he's good and cheap. I got the battery there cheaper than what it would have been on ebay iirc. So I have had good luck with him

 
Oh man, I meant to say AdoptAMac.com was the site. Not We Love macs.

Forgive me, I dunno where I got that from.

EDIT: I meant to also say that I was getting the 840avs from ChristTrekker.

 
If I had two working examples (I do happily have one), I would pop in a 68-pin scsi and Nubus Jackhammer, and install MacOS 8.1 on one of the machines. A Nubus card like the SpigotPower AV would also do nicely in such a unit if you wanted actually to use it for its intended purposes, while the Jackhammer/68-pin scsi combo would provide storage capacities that were almost inconceivable in 1993.

You do, however, need 4 x 256k vram chips to take advantage of certain of the AV hardware features.

The other I would likely keep stock as a 7.1 Pro machine with a smallish 1 or 2 GB drive. The stock system installation naturally runs like greased lightning on the 40MHz '040. I would not make it any more complex by way of Open Transport, etc., just so as to marvel at the speed of the thing in its original configuration.

So, one would be big, while the other would be fast.

My one working 840av I have set up as a dual booting system (7.1 and 8.1, but when booted from 7.1, accessing its 9GB HFS+ disk that runs from a Jackhammer Nubus card is problematic). That is why I suggest separate configurations.

For additional cheap thrills, install the various Text-to-Speech components — and a GeoPod adapter. Set the machine up as an answerphone, just to say you'd done it and heard it answer the phone for you. Some of the answerphone features can operate with one of the stock PlainTalk voices. Most of this is handled by the DSP, as another of the interesting features of the 840av (and the two 660avs) is that multiprocessing is what they are all about. You can do audio work on them, for instance, and not take a significant performance hit while working at other tasks.

Accordingly, operations of the System software on these machines are significantly more complex than than on an ordinary Quadra. Some details about this can be found here. It's not ideal, and it's not unix, but it shows one of the directions Apple tried to take in the early 90s in order to overcome the inherent limitations of the MacOS, prior to the abortive leap towards Copland (which was what the switch to PPC was largely about — and it failed). To see the last gasp of the 68k and classic MacOS in trying to reinvent itself is alone worth a tinker.

They are also wonderfully quiet machines for word processing and the like.

 
Seems like a good trade to me.

I've always liked the 840AV's and in particular the nice compact case style which has alwaysd struck as both cute and elegant at the same time.

The 840's with their wonderful DSP's make for great A/V machines especially when paired with a nice controller and fast hard drives. A good RAID array will take your from impulse to Warp faster than you can say "Go, Sulu!"

The only thing that would make them or any Nubus Mac even better would be a Nubus ATA/100 or SATA controller.

Make sure to max the RAM out on 'em. I have some 72-pin SIMMS that can help with that if ya need 'em.

 
I have an 840av in nearly stock config, paired to an AudioVision display, which although "for" the x100 powermacs, works fabulously if you've got the correct adaptor.

I tried 7.6.1 and 8.1 and 7.5.3 on mine, and similar to Beachycove, I went for the original 7.1 Pro (I have the install CD) -- it's super fabulous. I ended up installing opentransport, but let me just say that IE4 on 7.1 on an 840av is just about the godliest thing you can think of. The only way to improve it would be to give it the full 128mb of ram.

I think mine had a 1.2 or a 3 gig hard disk, plenty big for the minimalistic Internet apps and everything I was using for it.

Anyway -- great machines, the 840s, and if I had to pick a(n) (other) 68k Mac to haul up here to the university, it'd be my 840av, the AudioVision display, and probably either the Apple Extended Keyboard II or the Apple Adjustable Keyboard, and I'm thinking, just to be safe, the QuickTime Conferencing Cam (for making my Video Blog) and just for good measure, the LaserWriter Select 360.

Alas, not allowed to live in 1993. (More importantly, I have so much other junk hanging out that I can't really physically fit a desktop 68k mac.)

Anyway-- congrats on the 840s! they'll probably be great machines for quite awhile.

 
I have the 840avs now. Well... They are sitting in the kitchen. However, at this point they are useless since i have no adapter for the video, neither a monitor to use it with. I need to get a PRAM for one of them I am sure since ChristTrekker told me that he had issues with getting video to come up on one. I will look into that.

One of them has a Radius 24. Not sure what it is, but I will let you know. I am still relatively new with 68k macs and all the accessories.

Since my PowerBook 540c is using my EtherTalk 10Base-T AAUI Adapter, I ordered another one off of ebay for $12.95USD Shipped. Not bad, considering that I paid $30 for the ethertalk last year...

I got an Apple Twisted-Pair Ethernet AAUI Adapter. So it should work relatively well. One of them I opened (the good one I guess) has two hard drives, a Zip drive and a SCSI Apple 600i CD-ROM. Not sure how good they are, but like i said, once I get them up, I will give you ALL the specs.

This will be so interesting to see what I can do with them. It would be ultra cool to turn this into my Retro project. Not sure what else to do though with them. We'll see 8-)

 
Dude, let me take an inventory on my vintage stuff. Since I am downsizing my 68k/early-PPC stuff, I may end up having more adapters than I really have use for. I'm getting to the point that if I have a (Mystic) CC to run NetBSD on, and a Quadra for A/UX, that's about all I'd need.

 
picked this up. I am having problems with my adapter and the Quadra.

I got the machine up and noticed it has NetBSD|M68k on it. That was interesting, freaked me out that it had A/UX on the machine until Cory in IRC told me that Quadra 840AVs won't run A/UX.

Oh well, I thought it was cool while it lasted. I am now currently loading OS 8.1 on it. This sucker has a 9.1GB HDD (50-pin IIRC), and a 2042MB (2.04GB) 50-pin HDD in it as well.

I had to swap the board from one of the 840s to the nicer one. It seems there was a hazy material on the back and the front of the board. It wasn't dust, and the first thing I looked at was the caps

Anyways, it's up and running as of typing this, and I will get pics in a bit. It's missing a few cover bezels, but I am not too worried. BTW, Shout to to ChristTrekker for trading this. I also got some other goodies like Drive cases of all sorts of SCSI.

TTYL Guys!

 
Please tell me you're not writing straight over the top of the NetBSD install! I would trade you for that HD in a second.

 
Sorry, too late :-/

I couldn't log in since there was no way for me to get the log in info on the box. Despite that, i would rather play with the system in a Mac OS native environment. Sorry.

I got drivers for the video card. Turns out it's a Radius PrecisionColor 24Xp. Should make quickdraw run faster as well as any part of the windowing system.

 
Please tell me you're not writing straight over the top of the NetBSD install! I would trade you for that HD in a second.
You could always install netbsd for yourself... it's pretty easy to do on a 68k mac, if a little boring. I've put it on my Centris 650 a handful of times.

 
I promised pics, but due to working alot, I leave my camera in the car. I brought it in to take a few pics, so I might as well snap a few others.

Quadra from the front:

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and...

Quadra from the back:

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Sorry for the tardiness on the pics. I need to post a few more photos on stuff that I got with the Quadra

 
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