Beta’s obligatory thread

[BetaC]

As it turns out, the door on the CD drive is stuck, and it is indeed a mostly working G3 with a ROM 1 Rev A board. I was thinking I might source the rage 128 from my old B&W, same with the cpu so I can get it running above 300MHz. That way it's more distinct from my clone that's sitting right beside it.

 

[BetaC]

Well, toady I said goodbye to two machines. My G3 that I got a few weeks back is now going out to someone who will enjoy it more than I could, and my UMAX is going to go to a coworker who will love it, but doesn't know he's getting it. Why did I get rid of two specifics? Because I now have a Macintosh Clone with a G3. Two macs, one case.

I now have a Power Computing Power Tower 225 running a MAXPowr G3 275. Sure it ain't a huge upgrade, but it's still an upgrade. The machine even came with a server-sourced 1MB Cache chip installed. I don't know if I actually need it, all things considered. It might end up in my 7100 if it isn't. Sadly I don't have the original 604e, as it wasn't at the recycler.


Now the only problem is wiping the SCSI drive and reinstalling Mac OS on my SSD. Does anyone know if I might encounter problems while not having the original CPU card?

 

[LaPorta]

I have virtually the same machine and setup: PT Pro 200 w/ MAX Power G3 400 MHz card installed. I have triple-boot installed on a SD to IDE adapter and Sonnet ATA Card with 7.6.1, 8.6, and 9.1 all able to run the machine with no issue at all. Mine is stuffed full of way more junk than yours is! It is a mighty fine and speedy machine. I have the original 604ev in a static shield bag somewhere. It works very well.

 

[BetaC]

I have virtually the same machine and setup: PT Pro 200 w/ MAX Power G3 400 MHz card installed. I have triple-boot installed on a SD to IDE adapter and Sonnet ATA Card with 7.6.1, 8.6, and 9.1 all able to run the machine with no issue at all. Mine is stuffed full of way more junk than yours is! It is a mighty fine and speedy machine. I have the original 604ev in a static shield bag somewhere. It works very well.

Thanks for helping quell my fears, lol. I also managed to snag what I assume is a 1.0 version of a Sonnet Tango, and I'm hoping to use it with this system. Given that the G3 seems to have 1MB of cache built in, do I actually need the motherbord cache?

 

[LaPorta]

Uncertain about that, actually. Not sure if mine does, actually, but I'd think it may bypass it for the onboard G3 cache. Nice score witht he Tango! I have another type of FW card in there. Sometimes, getting it all to play nicely is hard.

 

[BetaC]

Yeah, it seems to disregard the cache completely. So I can probably upgrade my 7100 in to being still slow as a result. Now to just find a driver for the original tango, instead of the more modern ones.

 

[BetaC]

For once, it's not a mac (or IBM machine) that I'm showing off. this time it's just a mostly complete in box copy of Myst. Not any of the later re-releases either. Original, copyright 1993 Myst, complete with a previous owner's handwritten notes.

 

[joshc]

For once, it's not a mac (or IBM machine) that I'm showing off. this time it's just a mostly complete in box copy of Myst. Not any of the later re-releases either. Original, copyright 1993 Myst, complete with a previous owner's handwritten notes.

Nice. I still have my Myst CD that I had as a kid… just one of those things I’m not massively sentimental about, though I do have good memories of playing it a lot on a Performa 6200 back then. I also have realMyst on my modern Mac though I haven’t played it in a while.

 

[BetaC]

Nice. I still have my Myst CD that I had as a kid… just one of those things I’m not massively sentimental about, though I do have good memories of playing it a lot on a Performa 6200 back then. I also have realMyst on my modern Mac though I haven’t played it in a while.

Yeah, for me it was mostly just the novelty of having the very first version of it. That and having a legally acquired mac game.

 

[BetaC]

I finally have a boxed classic Mac OS copy.


Two, actually. I will probably still use my legacy recovery image more often, but it's always nice to have real copies available.

 

[CC_333]

*sigh* I had one of those once. Bought it new back in 1999 or so (when it was the current version!) to fix my iMac, as the restore disks it came with got scratched beyond repair.

Over time, it, too got scratched up, and somehow I lost the box and all the documentations contained within.

I think I've since found another one, but it's not the same.

c

 

[BetaC]

*sigh* I had one of those once. Bought it new back in 1999 or so (when it was the current version!) to fix my iMac, as the restore disks it came with got scratched beyond repair.

Over time, it, too got scratched up, and somehow I lost the box and all the documentations contained within.

I think I've since found another one, but it's not the same.

c

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm lucky in that the only boxed copy of an OS my entire family had before this was a small DVD box for Snow Leopard. I do also have a boxed copy of 10.4.3, which I salvaged from the historic building that will be torn down for more apartments that I used to work in.

 

[CC_333]

I'm sorry to hear that.

I'm sorry to have experienced it....

At the same time, I also got a boxed copy of AppleWorks 5, which is also lost.

8.5 was the only Mac OS versions I bought new until Snow Leopard came out in 2009. At $39 (or was it $29?), it was a no brainer! (a bit off topic, but relevant: all prior versions were too expensive to justify because I was daily-driving some combination of Mac OS 9.x, 10.1.4, Windows 98 and 2000 until at least mid 2006 and Mac OS Tiger, Leopard and Windows XP from then to at least 2009 or 2010, and they all did everything I wanted. Keeping up with the latest in security was somewhat less important back then (being forced to keep updating like we do nowadays became a thing actually relatively recently, like 2016 or so, if I remember correctly, though it was starting as far back as 2011), so I could pull it off quite a bit easier than now (2000, XP, Vista and even relatively recent but unsupported versions of Mac OS X are starting to get kind of hard to use online, and even though one can technically connect to an Internet-facing network, doing much of anything Internet-related on 98, early Mac OS X and Mac OS 9.x and earlier is completely pointless without extreme measures).

TL;DR: computing used to be much more fun before the use of fancy security and highly complex encryption algorithms became mandatory for everything.

c

 

[BetaC]

I'm sorry to have experienced it....

At the same time, I also got a boxed copy of AppleWorks 5, which is also lost.

8.5 was the only Mac OS versions I bought new until Snow Leopard came out in 2009. At $39 (or was it $29?), it was a no brainer! (a bit off topic, but relevant: all prior versions were too expensive to justify because I was daily-driving some combination of Mac OS 9.x, 10.1.4, Windows 98 and 2000 until at least mid 2006 and Mac OS Tiger, Leopard and Windows XP from then to at least 2009 or 2010, and they all did everything I wanted. Keeping up with the latest in security was somewhat less important back then (being forced to keep updating like we do nowadays became a thing actually relatively recently, like 2016 or so, if I remember correctly, though it was starting as far back as 2011), so I could pull it off quite a bit easier than now (2000, XP, Vista and even relatively recent but unsupported versions of Mac OS X are starting to get kind of hard to use online, and even though one can technically connect to an Internet-facing network, doing much of anything Internet-related on 98, early Mac OS X and Mac OS 9.x and earlier is completely pointless without extreme measures).

TL;DR: computing used to be much more fun before the use of fancy security and highly complex encryption algorithms became mandatory for everything.

c

Yeah, you're not wrong. Everything has gotten a lot less interesting and way more filled with things nobody actually uses. Hell my work recently had some severe issues caused by an accidental windows 11 upgrade.

 

[BetaC]

Well, another one of my whales has been conquered. Finally found myself one of the more useless Newtons, and in mostly good condition.

There was also a 1MB SRAM card in there, which just needs a 2325 battery to get going again. I don't even know if Newton OS 1.3 can do anything, but hey. It's a damn newton.

 

[jmacz]

Neat find!

 

[BetaC]

Neat find!

Thanks. And because I'm already invested in the mid 90s apple scene, I was able to just straight up connect it properly to my clone, and send over the 1.3 update. If only it could go higher than that. I also managed to find the only 2325 battery in my local area, so my 1MB card is now working. Time to find, uh, something to throw at this thing.

 

[BetaC]

I can finally scratch another computer off of the "Mac models that make for collector pieces" list.


I finally have a mostly complete CUBE. It's all working, even the very dry-rotting speakers.

 

[TimHD]

I can finally scratch another computer off of the "Mac models that make for collector pieces" list.

I finally have a mostly complete CUBE. It's all working, even the very dry-rotting speakers.

I managed to replace those rotting cones in the G4 Cube speakers using the below guide (and sourced the perfect ‘black’ forum inners from Netherlands, link below and in the guide). Now I have a complete setup that has the true to sounds G4 Cube startup sound….

Guides:
https://www.cocoadelica.co.uk/blog/reviving-apple-pro-speakers

Speaker inserts:
https://www.speakerrepairshop.nl/nl...-een-conusmaat-van-3-5-cm-f201/a-101-20000032

 

[BetaC]

I managed to replace those rotting cones in the G4 Cube speakers using the below guide (and sourced the perfect ‘black’ forum inners from Netherlands, link below and in the guide). Now I have a complete setup that has the true to sounds G4 Cube startup sound….

Guides:
https://www.cocoadelica.co.uk/blog/reviving-apple-pro-speakers

Speaker inserts:
https://www.speakerrepairshop.nl/nl...-een-conusmaat-van-3-5-cm-f201/a-101-20000032

Awesome, thanks.